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To advertise, email, podcast at thisismaggie.com. Release yourself from order and logic and enter a new place. It's not work. It's not home. Here, no maps have been drawn. No books have been written. Nothing is certain. Everything is possible. Welcome to Podcast and Chill with Maggi.
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I'm assuming this doesn't end well.
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Yo, what is up, Saddam, man? Welcome to another amazing episode of Music Policy.
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No, no, no. You want to try that again?
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Yeah, I know, I know. My energy is a bit low. So I'm restless, bro. I haven't been getting enough sleep, bro. I've been working tirelessly with no pay. You know, I've just been up and down. With no pay? Yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm outside a lot now.
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Keeping up with the 21-year-old.
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Trying to keep up with the 21-year-olds, my nigga. You know, Durban, Bailey got raised, came back. Even when I was like, even when I was like shooting my reviews of what happened during the weekend stuff. Like in the comments, in my comment sections, they were like, nigga, you look tired. And I could tell that I was tired, but I had to do it, you know. But it's better now because I have like a whip to move around. It's not my whip, but I have a whip to move around. It's easier now, you know. So you're going to have it for how long?
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We'll see. As long as the chain. We'll see. Wait, yeah. No, no, not yet. Yeah, we'll see how long I have it for. I'm going to give it back and get it again and stuff like that. Because I told them, yo. Where did you get it? One of mine. He's chained.
01:55
The man is chained.
01:56
You are having the best of both worlds now. Hmm.
02:00
What do you mean the best of both worlds? Diastema. Which best of both worlds? Which worlds are we talking about here? He's taking a cab here.
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So, the nigga got the bigger car and then I was like, I have this thing that I send my drivers to go buy bread with, you can use it so long.
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No, no, I didn't get it from, I think, you're referring to Shimmy.
02:21
Shimza. No, Shimza, give me your car. That's actually not on my pass, my nigga.
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Does the car have a fridge?
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It's got a nice AC.
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It doesn't have a fridge. It works just like a fridge.
02:32
The problem with that car, you know, I'm morning, you know, and we go to Limpop, make sure you don't drive where there's water. A steering wreck must go for 12 months. I was thinking in point. With the Audi? Yeah. What's a steering wreck? That's an A4.
02:43
No, no, no.
02:44
It's a steering wreck. Like, this is a steering wreck. It controls the wheels and whatnot. When that thing goes in the water, your car, the steering comes stiff. You can't. For safety. Yeah.
02:58
You can't move your steering. Until I get out of the water.
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Aye. Once it goes in the water, you will be able to drive until the water removes all the grease and everything. And then now you can't even turn your steering like that. There's no more power steering. It becomes a Toyota Corolla in 1976. Yeah. Dope. You didn't know? No, I had no idea, bro. Yeah, but you're busy searching for cars. You don't ask the correct man about cars.
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Mercedes has the same problem after 100,000 Ks.
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Yeah?
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That's what you know. That's what you've been a Mercedes driver.
03:29
It's a nice car. It's comfortable. The sound is dope, right? It's a temporary car.
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It's Harman Kardon.
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It is.
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Just like Mercedes.
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Shots said it sounds dope, right? He said the sound was dope, right? Shots love Audi.
03:41
Harman Kardon is like the AMG of KBL.
03:45
It's not Harman Kardon? What is it?
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Ah, man. Come on. It's the standard Audi sound. It's not Hammond Cardone. Hammond Cardone is there by BMW. The standard what? Is it like Apollo? Audi. Is it like Apollo? Audi. Like Audi Stadium. Audi. Eh? Do you remember Audi Stadium?
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Is it like Apollo? Eh?
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No, man. You can't compare it to Apollo. I'm saying the sound. The sound. Audi Stadium. Is it better than Apollo?
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No, it's way better. Oh, then that's fine. That's fine. As long as I'm better than Apollo boys. I mean, The Polo boys. Who is the Polo boy? A O-C-P-Way. S-P-Way who? You know, Spi-Way, Spi-Way, Blowjob Spi-Way. Oh, the Blowjob Spi-Way. Yeah, Stan's a smurf. What? No, I missed that one. I didn't.
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What did he say?
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You said blowjobs freeway. I said the blowjobs freeway.
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Yeah, that's him. That's him. Oh, man. But on Monday, it was Tuesday. Monday or Tuesday, I went to Zwartcops Raceway, right? Zwartcops. Zwartcops. Zwartcops. Zwartcops. That's it. Zwart, yeah, that's Zwart. Let's go with what he said.
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Okay, check it on, guys. Educated ones. Which one is it? Zwartcops. Which one are we going with?
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Zwartcops.
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Zwartcops. Zwartcops. So who was right?
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It doesn't matter who's wrong. It doesn't matter who's right.
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It's not a race. So, man, I sent you the invite, actually.
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You sent me the invite where? On WhatsApp. I was like, RSVP now. I sent it, I think, on Sunday. No, no, Saturday. Yeah, because I muted you. Because...
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Why? Yeah?
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You put me on D&D, nigga. No, man. You're not in D&D. How about that, bro? My phone is on... So if I never go in my archives, I won't see what you send me rather than send in a group.
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Until you remove me from that shit of yours.
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Nigga, listen. My phone is always on D&D. I didn't put you in D&D. Calls just don't go through on my phone.
05:43
So you didn't address VP for that thing. I don't know why. Because you told me you like, what does this thing?
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Car racing. No, not car racing, man. You did this advanced driving thing. So that was basically advanced driving, bro. We're like on the tracks, bro. Mercedes Benz. I don't know why they trusted me with those cars, bro. I realized that I'm a good driver, actually.
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You know?
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A good driver that sits like this.
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Did you see that guy that crashed the 1.1 million Rand Audi?
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Like this.
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There was some guy that crashed a 1.1 million round Audi. VW is actually like even like fighting about it right now. They're like, yo, these influencers that have been given these loan cars, they're driving recklessly, irresponsibly. There's so many. I've never seen Tuffy driving responsibly. And I realize now that they're giving those cars to… The overtakes across solid lines.
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They're giving those cars to some influencers. So we see those cars there with those branding. No, but why is it a problem if they're giving... No, no, no, no, no.
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What are you influencing? Influence a car, dog. Let me tell you. I was actually supposed to get a Chinese car for like six months. Right. With this agency, they want to give us cars for six months to review, to use. I'm a full tank and we have photo shoots. They do videos with us, blah, blah, blah. So there's like a lot of influx with like Chinese cars with influencers. Right. But they told us, I think a couple of weeks ago, that there was a delay with the deports, the tariffs, da, da, da, da, da, in terms of shipping the cars. So there was a problem with that. Right. So I was waiting for that. I was going to be in a Chinese car now. But when we did the Zwartgops thing, I was driving well, right?
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It was Simms' thing because they gave him a car. He partnered with Mercedes-Benz. And then from there, I spoke to him because he's doing best of both worlds again, right?
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So this time around, he's… This time… He's doing best of both worlds, right? Like spreading humours. Ngaapa. Music pulse.
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Ngaapa.
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Wait, dog. Come to think of it, bro.
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Why are you with Mars every day, dog?
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No, we spoke about it on spreading humans. No, no, no. I don't watch spreading humans. We spoke about it on spreading humans. Why?
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I'm not a friend. I'm with you here. I'm asking you a question. You are the man in the relationship. What's going on?
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Bro, you test driving cars with Mars.
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Are you sure it's the man?
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What's going on, bro?
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So July literally came out with couples that came out like that… You lie.
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You lie. I'm saying you lie. It's like young mangas. What do you say?
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No. Sorry. What I meant.
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Yeah.
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Like July came out with like couples that have been hiding behind the scenes. You lie. You lie.
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Decided to come out and be public, bro. I saw Tito. It's outside. He's out there. He's out there. This is the sissy with Anel.
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I don't know why he did that, dog. What do you mean? Like, bro. You know, like now I don't have smoke for her anymore. I have to let her go now.
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Damn.
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I was gonna roast her. Yo, yo, yo, yo.
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I met her, bro. She's easy. But Tito's my boy. I need to chill. Why do you wanna roast her?
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You see, I can't tell you why because that would be roasting her. It's my boy. Tito's my boy. Tito's my boy.
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She's not for the streets, right? She's not, right?
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She's not what? Tito's my boy! She's not what? I was asking if she was for the streets.
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Ah, no.
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Why are you asking? We should be asking you.
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We're not traffic coppers, bro.
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You're the traffic cop in the music industry. Let's go back to you, bro.
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Except we're not Obasuna off camera.
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Hey, Baba. So, so, so listen.
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I had a thing with Shims. I spoke to Shims. No, wait, bro. Shims, I can't wait. I want to know Maz. You and Maz. What's going on? I can't wait. Oh, no. Me and Maz, we're good friends. We're good. We've always been good, bro. You know us. We've always been good. We're good people, bro. You can't be friends with a woman.
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Don't make me talk, dog. Because I'm not a child. That's why I'm asking. You almost castled Durban July because you were fighting with who?
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And then that person went and talked to you and there's Jikiti. You know what girls do?
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They be like, yo, there's this other nigga who's going to be there. And then you're like, okay, hold on. Let me cancel my cancel.
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I'm like, what's going on? I'm like, what's going on? I'm like, I hear this TV. No, man. Marz was producing.
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No, man. Listen.
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The reason why I didn't want to leave anymore is because anxiety hit me. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm telling you, I explained it yesterday.
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The fight started, I guess, from the booking. No, you can say how Steve, you're the producer of post shows.
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The fight started when this guy wants to finalize the booking. So I think the fight is why you're booking so far?
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It's why you're booking so late.
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When you knew, we got outfits, we got everything. Who's fighting? Dog.
10:56
You were fighting here in the network.
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I don't know. Maybe we do, but you were fighting with someone here in the network. Why would I fight about me getting accommodation? Why is it anyone's business? Why is Maz not here today? It's clearly someone's business because it pissed you off.
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What? No, you're wrong. I'm not. Nigga, stop. I can't be wrong. I'm being honest, you're wrong.
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200k episode views in five days. Who? Us, last week. 200 and what? Why?
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Performance anxiety. Miles was sitting right here. The boy was cooking.
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Boy was cooking. The boy was cooking.
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What's going on, bro? Let me finish my pass. No, let me finish your pass for you. No, I want to finish my pass. You can't finish my pass for the first time. What do you mean? A relationship thing.
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Wait, wait. Let me tell you something. Hold on. Where does your stove end?
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My stove?
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Hmm.
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Like the button.
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10, 12, 14. And… I don't know. I don't know, bro.
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I'm married. But it's those installed ones. I see it in my house.
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It's like… It doesn't have a number, but it's a guest thing.
12:07
Yeah. So… My advice, bro. Listen, let me tell you something. You see Altidio's brand now, and Anele with them combined. They're more expensive now. Okay.
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No.
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Wait, hold on. I'm saying brands. Let him finish. Brands want to work with them. They're good, ideal for some brands to work with. Because it's two powerhouses in one. You understand? Okay. And looking at you and Maz, I'll be like, hmm… If this nigga can just take the cows, couple maz.
12:41
Oh, okay. Not the cows.
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What do you mean?
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Still a boy.
12:47
Yeah, but… No, no.
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No, no, we must encourage guys to, you know… But bro, if you combine your brain with maz, be public about it, own it, right? You both will make a lot of money. Own what? Own up to it. All right. So what I'm saying, right?
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About my pals.
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So we're doing best of both worlds.
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You know what's the thing about girls? They will deny you. Marawena, you'll never deny them.
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You just find their way around them. I don't know. You should be an expert on denials. You're Donald's friend.
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Okay. I should be. These guys in denial.
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Let's go talk. From the expert. It wasn't me.
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Okay, I lied to the pastors, okay? Let me continue lying. So he's doing two stages now this year. Right? In December. He's bringing Lecompo again. Listen.
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Ah, this thing I'm not blessed with. Now he's saying, no, listen.
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You know what's the best of both worlds if you go to Ethiopia and Uganda?
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Yeah.
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The Nile.
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The Nile River, it's got two sources. One source is in Ethiopia. I've been there. One source is in Jenga, in Uganda. I've been to Uganda, but not to the source of the Nile.
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Okay. Zimbabwe is looking for you. Yeah, Tach.
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Aye, don't worry. They need to pay me.
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I need my cows back first.
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So it's two stages. He's always done no wonder. So he's doing two stages, right? So he's doing the combo and comb and then afro and obviously piano. So it's two separate stages this time. And he's saying he wants to turn it into like a festival type thing. I was like, oh man, I'm trying to do like a spring fiesta. He's like, no, not a spring fiesta, but more like a festival. Like a festival that everybody comes to. Bigger than what it is now. And I was like, you're probably the only person who can actually pull this off.
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That's how you kiss ass.
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You have to kiss ass. To get work.
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Yes. I'd rather kiss ass with someone who's giving me the hundred thousand. I'd rather. Then you guys, come on bro. So he took money from Nott and gave to you? Yeah, of course. Why not? Shit.
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You understand? So that's why I spoke to him bro. And he's like, he's really invested. I was using my money for a Zempik.
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It's run out.
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Back to being fresh.
14:59
He's really invested in the genres. Because even in Lekombo, he's really tapping into, you know, laptop DJs?
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Like KFM breakfast.
15:06
You know laptop DJs? You know laptop DJs? You know what is it? Virtual DJs.
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Yeah. That use visual DJs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the fuck, nigga, bro?
15:16
Don't ask me questions that have to do with music and expect me not to know. I'm not from Pretoria. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not.
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Disrespect me. Not an entire city. Come for me. Not where I'm from or where I stay. Oh, okay. I'm sorry, Pretoria.
15:31
No, and they love me. No, no, no. I meant him, guys. You're back. Fuck them, kid.
15:38
What did you get?
15:40
We must buy SpaceX shares. What is it? Oh, Elon Musk. We must. Why? What's happening? We're betting on Mars.
15:47
No, I can't.
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Elon is taking us. Sit down.
15:57
That was dope.
15:59
Sit down. The petty tendencies.
16:05
Right. Madonna, what's on your pulse? No, no, no, no. Your pulse.
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No, it's good. Come on. No, no, no, man. Shout out to Shimza, man. For doing what he's doing. I hope this time around we'll get invited.
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Since you are working there, we're going to go check it out. You are always invited. You guys, you've always been invited.
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I wasn't invited. I don't think. I don't have beef with Shimza. I don't have beef. Like, I'm not mad at Shimza. It's out of the fridge. No.
16:33
You know? It's not out of the fridge.
16:37
I've got no reason to beef with him. Even in court, I even said to the judge, like, yo, I believe in my opinion, he's one of the best DJs I've ever produced. You know what I mean? I got no beef with him. I don't understand why he wouldn't invite me. Like, you know, invite me for a free ride.
16:52
You know what I mean? No, no. There's a thing. It was limited seats. It was limited people. And the reason I invited you is because you do advanced driving. You drive very fast.
16:58
It was limited seats, but the car was what you call?
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No, so it was for limited drivers. He was like, yo, just two people. Quick one. Just two.
17:08
So Maz and who? Because Maz is in the process of getting a license. So it's like, come experience driving. How do you know? We talk.
17:15
Oh, it's not because she's from Seabuswa. And that's where they buy them.
17:18
No, no, no. I don't know. I don't know if she's going to buy it or not. But I don't think she will. You know she's from Siabusa.
17:25
Yeah, shout out to Shimza. Let's see how it rolls out. They mustn't get lost on Moloto Road.
17:34
Let's see how it rolls out. I'm going to be part of it this time around. I want to go watch. I want to go watch. I'm still confused on how Likompo won last year. I mean, last event. I don't understand why he's spending so much money in Likompo.
17:49
him being a good and the best DJ, one of the best DJs we ever produced in the country shouldn't be investing in voiceless music.
17:58
He has to. Maybe he's doing it for you. No, he has to. It's part of hating on Amapiano. It's like, dog, hold on, hold on, hold on. The guy came onto Podcasting Chill and said, Amapiano is not a genre, it's a sound.
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And my piano is not a jean, it's just a sound.
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That's what he said.
18:19
He said that out of his own mouth, like, it's mean.
18:23
You know what I mean? Like, that's the worst thing that has ever come out of someone's mouth since the last time someone vomited their McDonald's out.
18:31
And it's so funny that his girlfriend's sugar daddy is the one that runs McDonald's.
18:37
Yeah.
18:40
Sakhalan, let's go. Yeah, let's go to your pals, Noto.
18:42
No, aye. Why is my pulse number two?
18:44
Whose pulse? Do you want to go next? Oh, yeah, yeah.
18:48
No, no. Let me go. No, no. Let me go. It doesn't matter. I always make you go before me.
18:55
This time? Okay, cool. Let's go.
18:56
I want to talk about wife material.
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What? Wife material.
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Like pinnifels and stuff. You know what I mean? Wife material. Guys, if you want to find a wife, go to a Mask Gandhi concert. I was in Brakpan.
19:13
At the... At the official stage, right? In Kosyama Kogam. Not in Brakpan.
19:18
Let's stay close to Tabumbek.
19:22
You stay in Houghton?
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In Houghton? Houghton is right there in Roseburg. What do you say? No, not there.
19:27
Man, Tabo Mak has a house in Boxburg.
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It stays in Boxburg. No, he doesn't. I'm telling you. He stays in Houghton.
19:32
Okay, the house I go, I pass all the time. I see him coming in and out there. Wait, by the scope? Close to the scope. By the scope. Yeah, one year. That way. No, that's a shortcut I use, bro. When you come, I come from jetpack, bro. Do you know where jetpack is? I don't know that side. That's like Brakpan. What am I doing in Brakpan, bro? There's no life in Brakpan. We have a land. We don't have a watch.
19:56
Brotana, continue. Continue, Brotana. Don't start with me.
19:59
You are staying in a place where it's congested. Students.
20:04
Truck dealers. Everything is exactly in front of where you stay. Where? No, why don't you want to go to Japan?
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Who?
20:14
Yeah. How?
20:17
What's going on?
20:19
Nothing. Okay, we'll talk about… Let's go. We'll talk about Japan. What did I want in Japan?
20:24
No, I missed that. What did I want in Japan? No, you wanted water.
20:27
Oh, okay. They say you wanted ecstasy.
20:31
What is it? What is it?
20:32
What is it? No, what is it? No, no. Okay, back to wife material.
20:35
You know. It's like what you were rocking at 7th July.
20:57
Because I'm a pinny for boy.
20:59
No, no, no.
20:59
Ah, bro, don't rock, man. No, no, guys, guys. Guys, everyone that's rocking, talking about... We will get to that. We will get to that.
21:07
No, not the outfit. No, not the outfit. No, not the outfit. I'm telling you, let them do the mascara thing and finish. I know you're waiting for it. You'll get your chance, my nigga.
21:20
The date is wife material.
21:21
Okay.
21:22
Yeah, send the cows, dog. Baby Damini, a.k.a. Inko Siyama Kogama, had a big, big, big show at the Big Chop Arena at Carnival City. I went there, out in the cold. When was it? It was on set.
21:34
It was outdoor event.
21:36
No, indoor. Why would you say out in the cold? At the big top. Out, it was cold. I was outside. Oh, okay. I was outside of… Is it Gauteng? Is it Mpumalang over there? It's almost in Mpumalang. Yeah, it's almost in Mpumalang. There's like a toll gate to get to there.
21:49
It's far. In the springs. Can I see the guy? I see the guy.
21:54
Oh, we went to… You went to Empress Palace. Empress. Oh, sorry. Yeah.
21:58
That's Boxburg.
21:59
Okay.
22:00
This is Brakpan. No, it's Brakpan. But anyway, yeah, I was out there. Packed, packed show. Packed to the rafters.
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To the rafters.
22:10
And the women. Dog, the ratio… The ratio was worse than Doja Cat.
22:15
There were more women there than there were women in ratio at the Doja Cat concert.
22:21
Like that's how packed it was.
22:23
And all of them are wife material, dog. Every single shape and size, dog. Every single shape and size, dog. From Shandesh to Uncle Waffles.
22:35
Everything.
22:37
Everything. You know, all the good stuff was there. So I really enjoyed my time there. I was there alone, unfortunately.
22:45
So you got to see it all with your woman disturbing you. My woman wouldn't disturb you. And saying, keep your eyes on me.
22:51
My woman knows how to behave.
22:52
So she lets you like look around?
22:54
No.
22:55
Okay.
22:55
She lets me use my eyes.
22:57
Oh, yeah.
22:57
That's what I'm saying. That's what I can say. My eyes can see. And I got to appreciate, you know, the music as well. And dude, I'm sorry. There's no Lecompo artist that can pack out the big top arena.
23:11
What's the capacity there?
23:13
I think 3,500 or something like that.
23:16
What?
23:16
Yeah.
23:17
Fiso? Do you agree? The Lecompo artists?
23:20
I'm not talking about them doing it in Limpopo.
23:23
Even there. No, they can't. You're telling me.
23:27
My car is not Lecompo. Okay, which hip-hop artist can do so?
23:31
Right now? Casper can do it. Right now? Which hip-hop artist can do so? I said Casper. That's fine. I'm saying.
23:37
I'm talking about like right now. Current. Current.
23:41
I'll come back to you. Fiso, you don't think that Shandash can sell it out? No. As like an orchestra or something like that? 3.5? You think she can't do 3.5?
23:50
Shandash, can I speak? Yeah? Don't try to threaten me. I'm not threatening you. What do you mean? Yeah, so wait. Bro, they come back as a big audience. Look, Shandash is dope. But Shandash didn't build her brand up.
24:04
She's not building her brain towards that direction. She's building her brain towards to gigs. Gigs and more gigs and more gigs and more gigs. She will forever be a booked artist. Do you understand? She'll forever make sense as a booked artist. 30 minute slot or 20 minute slot in every show that you have. And you need a Lecompo artist. Of course, Shandash is your best.
24:25
I feel like that's something you say about Shibishit. That's something you say about Shibishit.
24:31
You can't compare Shebe Shed to Shandesh, dog. That's something you'd say about Shebe Shed, right? But, okay. Yeah? I mean, I'm saying there is a Lokombo artist that can do 3.5. In a setting like that. A free Lokombo artist? Yeah. A free? Yeah. Who is it? I'm saying Shandesh. I feel like Shebe can also do it. Come on, bro. How much are tickets? Those are our top two. Even Karachma could do it. Hold on, how much are tickets there? How much are the tickets? Tell us.
24:56
I don't know.
24:56
Like $3.50?
24:58
Maybe the top tickets.
24:59
Yeah. A couple hundred. Bro, come on. A couple hundred.
25:02
Let's not disrespect our people. Hold on. When has a Lecompa artist ever said 3.5? No, bro. Okay, wait. Am I here? Am I here? Am I here? Because Makati is not a Lecompa artist. Bro, this is tag. It's not just pass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fine. Let him finish. Let me answer both of you now. Remember we did that show at State Theatre?
25:20
We were like 90% sold out. In Pretoria. In Pretoria. Yeah, man. I'm saying he could do it there. He's a bigger artist now.
25:27
Pretoria is where people think they are when they say they're in Joburg. No, no, no. Continue. I haven't even reached Joburg. They just get to Pretoria. They're like, yeah, this is good.
25:36
He goes as far as frown, man. I'm serious.
25:37
Even the Mascandi cats, when they got to Brakpat, they were like, yeah, I say sick old. No, bro. But, but, but, but, you know, come on, bro. After they passed the Heidelberg toll gate, they're like, yeah, I say sick old.
25:47
They shut down Timbiza heavily. The biggest achievement for Helicompo artists is to move to Midrand. Who?
25:53
Who shut down Tembisa? No more hits, no more hunger. It's in the East. It's in Ekuruleni, not in Joburg. Just like Prakpan is in Ekuruleni. What I'm saying is that what venue in Tembisa?
26:08
No, but we filled up thingy, man. It's not an arena, dog. Jojo's, Jojo's. Ah, Jojo's.
26:14
George is small, bro. George is big, bro. Oh, no, no. Zone 6. The biggest venue in Houtang. It wasn't like a one-man show. It's a balcony mix, bro.
26:21
And it was still exciting at the time. What's the biggest venue? It was still exciting at the time. What's the biggest venue? Is it not Zone 6?
26:27
No, Zone 6 is not big.
26:28
Is it not big enough? It's the biggest trap venue we have in Houtang. Is it not? Apart from Propaganda. But I think it's bigger than Propaganda though. I think Propaganda is bigger than... No, it's not bigger than... Zone 6 has that outside venue. And that was also full. Zone 6 said... Propaganda is two layers, bro. It's pretty much the same, bro. Zone 6 is where we used to get our groceries when I was a kid. Zone 6 has outer areas.
26:50
In Deep Loof, Zone 2.
26:52
Want to learn? Propaganda does have... It might be actually the same size. Okay, can we discuss real musicians now? Is Zone 6 still open? Is Zone 6 still open? No, no, no.
27:00
Okay. Yeah. Yeah, good. Must go back to being a black chain.
27:04
So, yeah.
27:05
A black chain? Yeah, that's what it was. When I was a kid. You know? Okay. Yeah, that's why we used to go to Dr. Mingal's offices. Yvonne Chaka Chaka's husband.
27:14
So, I think that, yeah, we're underrating Maskhandi.
27:19
Like, you know, we ignore it. But it's moving. And it's moving very loudly. If you go to YouTube, the most streamed artists this year are all Maskandi artists. You know what I mean? I don't even think there's an Amapiano artist in the top 10 of most streamed artists this year on YouTube alone. And YouTube is the one that we can say is the platform that everyone uses. Everybody has YouTube. Your grandmother's got YouTube. Even if she doesn't have Spotify, she's got YouTube. So that is showing us that, guys, there's a shift that's happening.
27:53
Like the new dominant genre in South Africa is Mascandi.
27:59
It's Mascandi. If there was a Mascandi show to fill up FNB Stadium, like a big Mascandi show to say, yeah, Mascandi now rules South Africa.
28:08
Tickets would sell out in minutes.
28:09
If.
28:11
If.
28:13
Mascandi is not a national genre.
28:16
It's not. How is it not anymore?
28:18
It's from Gooni people.
28:20
Okay.
28:20
It's just like Lukombo. Other than copying things that I've said before. Other than copying things that I've said before. Please don't compare Mascale to Lukombo. It's all due respect. Okay, it's fine. There's no comparison. Don't compare something that started three years ago with... Okay, please, bro. Please, don't do that. Don't get too excited. Don't get too excited with this Lukombo of yours. That's fine, right?
28:42
Afrobeats is for Nigerians, right? Why is Afrobeats big?
28:46
Because of the thing, because of the population. What is the population of Zulus?
28:53
There's a lot of them. Over 14 million. Exactly. Do you understand what I'm saying? How many pages do we have in the country? You understand. Not as big as Zulus. There you go. Not as big as Zulus. Therefore, by sheer numbers. It doesn't make it a national genre. It is not a national genre. It is not. Because there's so many Zulus. Nigga. There are more Zulus than there are Zimbabweans. Check the top 10, the bass songs right now. Ask Makadze. Makadze was advocating for Zimbabweans right now. She was saying, hey, Zulus are what, what, what, what. There are 13 million Zimbabweans.
29:22
13 million. And half of them are out of that country. Not in the country. 13 million Zimbabweans. Zimbabwe had a bigger population than Zambia.
29:32
Zambia now has a bigger population than Zimbabwe. Zambia's population is around 22 million. I don't know. Someone fact check it.
29:38
Zambia's 22 million?
29:41
Population.
29:41
Oh, yeah?
29:42
Yeah, it's a very small country. Oh, yeah. South Africa is the biggest country in Southern Africa in terms of population and size as well. Like we're gigantic. We're a ginormous country.
29:51
Yeah.
29:52
I mean, we're bigger than Nigeria, Ghana, and what other country?
29:57
Nigeria and Ghana combined, we're bigger than them. We've got more than double Ghana's population. Ghana's population is like 30 million.
30:03
I thought Nigeria has more population than that. No, Ghana.
30:05
Ghana, Ghana. I think he's talking about land size. Oh, land size. Yes, yes, yes. Geography.
30:12
Okay, your booking is coming there. You already did enough. No, no, no, no.
30:18
What booking? I've been getting booked all over the continent, dog. I got gigs all over the continent right now.
30:24
Right now.
30:25
You know what I mean? I've got a booking in Zimbabwe.
30:28
Okay, let's go. Right now. Let's carry on. You understand what I'm saying?
30:30
So, yeah. So, I wanted to say that, guys, we need to start focusing more on what's going on in the maskandi scene. I think we need to start pushing that a lot more. Look at that song. What's the song?
30:44
I forgot. DJ Slick's song.
30:46
I'm getting old now.
30:48
I'm forgetting my son's song.
30:51
Yeah. What about it? Labisa.
30:53
Yeah. Look at that. That's all Mascandi swag.
30:57
All of it is Mascandi swag. Like the Mascandi swag in that whole entire song is what made it go viral. That's why it's the biggest hip-hop song in South Africa right now.
31:05
The Mascandi swag is what made the song go viral? Is it not? Swag in terms of style or like outfits? Everything. Swag.
31:13
The wave.
31:14
I agree with Nota. With the shift that he's seen.
31:17
Yeah.
31:17
Um...
31:20
Will I say it's a Mascandi taking over? I don't know. It's still a little… The industry is wide open right now. People are consuming pretty much more genres, even including Afro House and even House Music is back. So it's opening it up. But those genres that used to take it, hey bro, they definitely… Okay, take away the beat.
31:37
You are right. I'm just not… No, take away the beat. Take away the beat or the music. What's the difference between Three Step and Mascandi?
31:46
From Fumato onwards. The singing style, everything is the same.
31:50
The content is pretty much the same, you're right.
31:53
Okay. It's the wave.
31:55
Do you understand what I'm saying?
31:57
But Mascandi has been capped forever and ever, dog. So Mascandi has to be the biggest genre in South Africa. Let me tell you why, bro. Every genre from hip-hop, piano… Rise and fall. There's music that comes from Mascandi just like that, bro. Like they took and sampled.
32:14
Mascandi also samples.
32:15
Yeah, but I'm saying that there's more music that comes from Mascandi to them. that they take from Muscandi.
32:20
It's a sample.
32:23
It's an American song. But it's rare for Muscandi artists to go take from someone. They always... It's rare, but I don't see it. Rafa was stolen from Marvin Gaye.
32:37
The biggest of Muscandi songs is like interpolations and samples and stuff like that.
32:41
Mostly interpolations. The biggest Muscandi songs, most of them. Okay, cool. Yeah, so it's not the most original. It's just accepted. Even their names are funny. No, it's original. Like it's like Sohulalufandam. Sohulalufandam. You understand what I'm saying? Those type of things, bro, like that are like catchy for me. That's what I'm saying. It's not a national genre. I see it coming up. Let me get back to my point. Coming up! Listen, listen, let me finish. Did you say coming up? Listen, there was the Poriko Sain Maskandi earlier this year. I think January 5th.
33:08
Poriko Sain Maskandi. Poriko was hopping onto the wave. Okay, he was hopping onto the wave.
33:12
Hmm.
33:13
Let's agree with Mouta. You should know about hopping onto waves. You were in Durban just now.
33:16
You were hopping onto the wave of Mascandi. And we were like, yo, I was like, damn, okay. One of the surfing capitals of the world. I see Mascandi's coming. But I don't see it becoming... Because someone from Pretoria did it.
33:23
Now it's close to home. Why do you... Why is it... No, I'm asking, bruh, because... No, you can't say... You can't say you paid attention to Mascandi because...
33:35
Okay, see, so... Mascandi, let's fight my opinion, bro. Don't fight wrong. Fight my opinion.
33:41
Don't fight me as a person. Fight what I said.
33:44
Yeah. Tell that to all the Zimbabweans that are fighting me.
33:47
Instead of my opinion.
33:53
Saying, yo, this nigger's mad at our country because of what, what, what, what, what. Yo, the way you guys treat in Debelis, in Zimbabwe, I should shut your mouths.
34:03
Genocidal people.
34:04
Or killed. The one you married, that side was what? Ndebele.
34:07
Yeah, and her families were victims of genocide.
34:10
How badly were your head, bro, with Zimbabweans?
34:14
Not at all. Why are you rubbing it off? Not at all. I'm just saying, imagine most Zimbabweans are Shona. Do you understand what I'm saying? So imagine I married Ndebele, not Shona. So they're mad at that. They're mad at that. This nigga married out of all Zimbabweans. He married in Zimbabwe.
34:31
They're mad at me. So is they're mad at like most in the outside, like here in the outside, Vendor people?
34:37
Come on.
34:38
Is it dead? It's not dead.
34:41
Like in the country. No, the Pettys never went to Vembe district and killed people.
34:49
The Shonas killed people.
34:51
The reason they call him the crocodile is because he was eating the sons and daughters of Ndebele people.
34:58
Do you understand what I'm saying? Sorry, I'm no longer married to Ndebele.
35:03
Yeah, it was, I guess, co-president with Mugabe at some point in time. After he died, they slaughtered his people.
35:13
Shut up. That was dope. Cesar? What's on my past, bro? Ash, man. Let me do a quick review on my…
35:20
What?
35:22
Let me do my quick review on my Devon July festival.
35:25
Oh, yeah. Devon July. Devon July. I feel like waiting for this. I know they're waiting for this one. It's been a long week. This nigga was looking at his Hennessy bottle. It's finished now.
35:34
No, me. No, it's there. It's not empty. He's saying it like that you're taking shots of the henny. No, I'm not taking shots. I'm taking shots of punch. I'm punching. Okay. So much more cut the henny. Punching above your head. Okay.
35:51
So… So I want to do a quick review of my Debe in July.
35:56
Why didn't we see you at Debe in July?
35:57
What? No, no, no, no. The dressing shit.
36:01
You were undressing.
36:02
No, no, no.
36:03
Yeah, I did undress my wife the whole day. I left the hotel around… I left the hotel on 7th.
36:11
Swiso's not somebody you can depend on, bro. Swiso is… This is my past, nigga. Swiso, you can't depend on… Swiso disappeared the whole weekend, bro. Me and him were booked at the same location. This nigga disappeared from Friday night. He said he was undressing his wife. I left this nigga at the club and I didn't see him since. Till the day I left. This man right here… Are you practicing your school, bro?
36:36
That's cheeky.
36:37
That's cheeky.
36:39
Don't even, bro. Let me turn my pulse, dog. Please, bro. Okay, sorry. Yeah. No, fuck that. But I'm just saying, bro. How can I dump you, bro? I took you from here. You were fighting here. In your relationship, you made peace in front of me. You got into my car. I drove you to Teben. Both of you.
36:58
See how caring I am, my wife and I. See… Go deeper. Go deeper. Go deeper. Go deeper. I see you threatening me. My wife is going to think you're about to say something I don't know. No, no.
37:13
I'm just talking about your irresponsibility as a man. That's all I want to talk about. He's being more adaptive. You're with your wife the whole time. So I didn't see any of the things you did. I want to speak about my experience with you every time we're together outside. But carry on with you.
37:27
A team at Twin Black.
37:28
What is it? I can't live it. I can't live it.
37:31
Okay, cool. Let me go back to it. I got to Debo and it's Friday night. Of course, it was... Jackie and I were like, we're going out, Baba. We're going out.
37:43
What time did you guys get there? Because you guys left here like 5 p.m. 6 p.m. probably.
37:47
We got there maybe. We got to the first event half past 10. Half past 10. To the Hennessy party. We got there late. I don't know half 11 or something like that.
37:55
Half 11? No, that's a good time. Four hour drive.
37:57
We got there, bruh. It was falling, bruh. Ah, the setup, bruh. Yo, yo, yo. People were drunk, dog. Yo, people were drunk. Wait. The Hennessy, the first party we went to Friday. Yo, man. People weren't that drunk. Nah, bruh. Come on, bruh. Nah. Come on, bruh.
38:12
Nah. I feel like that was well curated. It was a well curated event.
38:17
There was order. The sections were proper. No, I didn't say there was no order.
38:20
I'm saying people we know, they were drunk. Shout out to the venue. Even Masterpiece was lit.
38:25
Masterpiece was having fun, bro. Like, come on, bro. It's nothing wrong, bro. No, fun was head.
38:31
That event was lit. That's why you were so off the next day. That event was lit, dog. And then… What happened? I don't know how we split. And then I ended up with Knack music.
38:43
Ah…
38:43
I ended up with black music.
38:46
Anga.
38:46
Anga, man. Who's Anga? Nak. Oh, yeah. Black music. I ended up with them, got drunk, slept in the hotel, and then I came back home in the morning. I was drunk. You came back home in the morning? That's Deben for you. You came back in the morning? That's Deben for you. You don't come back home in the morning. What time? You came back at 5?
39:00
No, no, no. That's the morning. No, I was already sleeping. Sfiso, your car wasn't there when I left for the July. My wife was not gonna let you come back. Sfiso, I was... Nigga, I was... Nigga, I went to go cut my hair and I came back. I did my videos in the hotel. I changed my fit. And I still live.
39:14
And you weren't there. My wife was gonna kill me. You're lying. So...
39:21
I had so much fun. The following day, I decided to sleep. That's why I say I slept until the next day. When I got home, I slept. When I got home on Saturday, remember. And I said I was addressing my wife the whole day. So how did I come home 5-4-12? But you came to the July. What do you mean? I was smashing the whole day. I came home in the morning, bro. Trust me. I was smashing. Pumpkin. I was charming. Sisu, you're a liar. I was charming bombs. You're a liar. Okay, you'll ask my wife after that. Yeah, carry on. So… Traki's dressing up.
39:52
He posts. Traki's a real influencer.
39:55
Oh.
39:55
And I was so excited for him because it's like his first time in David… What is he like?
39:59
Dominic Zata type influencer?
40:03
That's the after part.
40:05
Dominic is a real man.
40:07
Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah. Nota.
40:12
What?
40:14
What?
40:15
You interacted with him. Answer Nota.
40:17
They were men to men.
40:20
She's okay, Yon.
40:21
I mean face to face.
40:25
Hand on waist, nigga.
40:26
Yeah.
40:28
So... Now when I woke up, oh, my wife woke me up and like, yo, look at Taki's pictures. They're so dope or whatever. I'm like, but Taki is still... You text me, I'm in a hotel. You're like, where are you? I'm in a hotel. Yeah. When you left, you requested, dog. Let's leave it. Let me tell you a story. Okay, hold on.
40:46
I want to give you a shout-out. Let me tell you a story because when I end up... No, Taki was the best-dressed straight man at the Devon July. Well done.
40:53
Oh, you're still straight, right? Let's not give you applause by mistake. But you can trust us. What do you mean?
41:00
Are you still straight?
41:01
Are you okay? You want to talk? About me coming out of the closet. You were flirting with Somizi, bro. Was I? Yeah.
41:08
No, Somizi was flirting with him. What was the flirt? Both of them. Nah, he's just too old. No, Somizi tells you I have a house. Somizi likes demanding age.
41:13
Yeah, in Dublin. I say, when I come, you say, yeah, maybe I must come. When they're still vulnerable.
41:16
Yeah, because I don't want to pay for accommodation. What do you mean? You already paid for accommodation. And I could stay long in Durban. I could stay the whole week.
41:22
For free. What do you mean?
41:25
You don't know what I'm saying?
41:26
That is rude, bro. You can't say that.
41:29
That is rude. They'll bribe you. Don't you not cross the dog. Let me come to the best part of it. Open your eyes to bribe. Come on. Let me come to the best part of it. Teach him. Teach him. I see the pictures and I'm like, oh shit, my boy looks really dope. So I go and post it. Nice. Like, oh, he looks really dope. And I'm like… One of the reasons why I didn't dress up for it to respond because I got a lot of DMs. People ask, why aren't you? I don't relate to the team.
41:58
I don't relate. Most of it.
42:03
Most people I see… We're cancelling his invite to the Dundee July.
42:06
No, no, no. Wait. Let me finish. Okay, sorry. Most people dress like Mexicans and cowboy-like. I've never came across personally a black man… In town or wherever, like a rock star, like a cowboy and shit like that. Because that was a team.
42:24
I bumped into… Texanas and shit like that. The guy who used to be minister of police, former police commissioner. Yeah, I bumped into him dressed like a cowboy.
42:33
So what's a cowboy?
42:34
It's just a… He wasn't in fashion at the time. It was just him who was rocking like that. Yeah. But now, ever since Beyonce dropped Cowboy Carter, she changed the entire theme of the entire Durban July to Cowboy Carter. That was all Cowboy Carter, let's be honest.
42:47
Yeah.
42:47
Why were they all cowboys?
42:50
Because cowboys ride horses, I guess.
42:54
So I didn't do it because I don't relate to the team. And also, I'm like, I drip every day. Like my co-host drip once.
43:02
You see? And let me be honest with you. Out of all the brutes that I saw in Durban July or saw pictures, you, you, you, you, you were the best dressed of all of them. I know. I don't care what they say. I know. And you look like a Mexican, bro. Imagine. If you think I'm right.
43:18
Which means they were three, two, one. They were counting down, though.
43:22
Because he was a four.
43:24
Out of 10.
43:26
And I know on the other show, they're not going to give you your flowers. Which show? The other show. Which show? The other show. Which show?
43:32
The one he was on.
43:33
No, not that one. No, it's coming.
43:35
What's on the map?
43:36
Oh! I didn't read the room there. I didn't read the room, sorry. I didn't read the room.
43:44
But you know what I'm dressed, bro? That's for me, like cowboy, it's Mexico. If you watch, I watch a lot of Mexican series, bro. A lot, bro. Pretty much every series that is on.
43:53
So now you know about Mexican shapes, right?
43:55
I worked with Mexicans not I told you I'm the one who told you Mexicans are hot Latinas are hot and you said I said their body shapes are ugly yes guys go please go watch what I said why is Saki shaped like El Chapo yeah that's that's why I'm going to the compliment like the body fits the fit the body fits the outfit the Mexican body the height You understand? All you needed, bro, was… You were comparing Tyler. What?
44:20
Whose hips don't lie. To Mexicans.
44:21
Bro, if you heard that thing, it was Chai, bro. Nobody was going to come for you. Nobody was going to compete with you, but well done. And I was more excited because I just saw you having fun, bro.
44:32
Why are you scratching your chin?
44:34
Nonsense. It was almost like you turned 18. But anyway, bro, I had better, much, much better fun at the rocket.
44:44
What do you mean? I look like I just turned 18.
44:47
You were so excited, bro. You're not even with me. No, but I could see your picture. The times I interacted with you, you were so excited. And then I saw your vlog.
44:55
That was the only time we saw each other.
45:01
And it was late at like, what? It was like at nine. What you said? I was good. You were not excited. I was good. What you said? I was getting good head. I was good. You was getting good? Good what? I was getting good head. Like, things were right. Like, I was getting… It was good. After some music. Nick. This is Nick. Carry on. Let's finish.
45:21
You know when your woman has a cap?
45:24
That head is amazing.
45:25
Yeah, when they suck through the teeth.
45:29
It's like a different kind of section. My woman has a gap.
45:34
Why are you being like that?
45:36
My woman have gaps.
45:38
Let's leave people alone.
45:41
What's wrong now? I'm an expert on gaps.
45:44
I know people are copying me, but I'm an expert.
45:48
Understand? If you look at my ex, you know, look at my current vibes.
45:56
So when you look inside, you just go, I see that.
45:58
Look, I'm like, this boy.
46:00
Following in my footsteps. Are you good? No, man. Bro, I'm coming to the best part of it. So I went to Rockets on a Sunday. When everybody who went to Deben on a low budget left Deben. Then we were there. Those who plan I had, we stayed there for a week. So, I went... You went with your wife, nigga.
46:22
Come on. Calm down, nigga.
46:24
El Tito hits me up. Calm down, nigga.
46:25
Y'all niggas, that's split the bill with your wives. And then you want to have ball on niggas and say, dog, you guys bring two incomes.
46:34
You're bringing two incomes, dog.
46:37
Anyway.
46:38
Then Altidro invites me to the party. I look at it on a Sunday. I pull up. When I get there, I get to the gate. I go to the gate.
46:48
He comes with me with Questa.
46:51
But I had interacted with Questa the day before at Tira's event. The after party. The hotbox. The hotbox. That hotbox thing is a movie, bruh. Oh, yeah? Ah, next year it's going to be worse, dog. Really? You know how they start? So it's Kabza and Tira that come together and host events. So Kabza does the sound. The sound is insane, bro. That party was a movie, bro. Anyway.
47:15
So… I'm sitting with Questa and everybody else. So, we spoke the day before with Questa and then now we're having a chat again. And someone came, asked me for a picture. And asked Questa for a picture. So, Questa takes a picture and then that guy, the person asked me for a picture. So, as they're queuing up to take pictures with us, celebrities, real celebrities, right? No, no, no, no. Hold on.
47:46
I love you.
47:48
Guys, like, let me be honest with you. What I saw in Dublin July, podcasters are the best celebrities around.
47:53
Why?
47:54
I don't care what you say. As a podcaster, as a Tido, as a Taki, as a Mac G, as a Sol, bro, these niggas, I caught these niggas walking with Sol. To 10, like, they just had to pass 10 my keys. They were complaining, they've been walking towards the, like, like a space of 100 meters.
48:14
For an hour. That's a long distance, eh? Mac's lit.
48:19
You understand what I'm saying? Because we're the celebrities. So it's fine. We accept it. Thank you for making us the biggest thing in the country. We appreciate it. So I was having a chat with Questa. You're welcome. When that person asked me for a picture. And then the other one asked me, Hey, open up. And then Questa laughs. Right?
48:36
Then I'm like, he's only 18. You know his voice. So cool. And then, I don't know where the conversation started. Bro, that nigga gave flowers to Notha, dog. And to me, at the same time, because to me, he was saying, I think you have the most difficult job in the network. Because knowing Notha, he doesn't agree with anyone. Even when you see, okay, being wrong, he's always going to find a way out until he's right. But with you, I hear him saying… Can't find your way right.
49:04
You're either right or you're left.
49:05
Yeah. But let me finish. I need to come to what he said. But it's really dope. Yeah. It's really dope. So we came to a conversation where we're like… He said… I hear every time he speaks… He's not lying. He's not lying. Because he even said he doesn't know if Nota was around his life, was around him. If he had met Nota or worked with Nota or Nota, would he have his career?
49:28
Say that in proper English, please.
49:31
Don't trust the baby.
49:33
So, and then I was shocked because I was like, okay, we rock this brew on the show. Aren't they supposed to like dislike us?
49:52
You understand what I'm saying? No, no, no, I'm just saying because every time, even sometimes when I gather you, I say, yo, there's Cuesta coming again. Like sometimes I do that. So some people would catch feelings. But I think I was like giving flowers to Nota. It's like he doesn't know if it wasn't for Nota, would he have a career? Would we know Cuesta or not? I was like, shit, that's dope.
50:11
That's so mature, bro. That's a lie. What do you mean? He knows for sure.
50:16
He knows.
50:18
He knows he'd be nowhere without me.
50:20
Okay. I don't think he will deny that.
50:23
He can't.
50:23
Yeah, I don't think he will deny that.
50:26
You can't deny that, nigga. You're taking pictures with him.
50:30
You understand what I'm saying? Niggas are asking about who?
50:34
The guy who's at a Maskandi concert in Brakpat.
50:37
With all the wife material. Are you good? With all the Zulu girls. Are you good? You wanna carry on? You know what? Let me tell you why he can't be offended. Because you guys have got a lot in common. You're being held together by your wives. You understand what I'm saying?
50:52
But that's something you wanted, Nota. You failed. No, I didn't. What? You wanted to have a wife. You wanted to keep your wife. It's not as if you got married and planning to divorce tomorrow.
51:02
You got robbed. It's Zimbabwe.
51:06
No, Nguni. Nguni cows.
51:07
I don't know what's the difference.
51:09
I Nguns.
51:10
Yeah.
51:10
So… Cows, not Nguns. Nguns is the pool. Yeah, so I'm talking about which cows they stole from me.
51:17
How they scare me.
51:18
But what I'm trying to say is this, is that, you know, it's nice to be able to talk.
51:24
Yeah.
51:24
You understand? You need to understand that your wife is holding you together.
51:29
And if it wasn't for your wife and her father, her very powerful father, And it's an ant. You'd be crushed like an ant.
51:37
Powerful father. Nigga, my wife's dad, my dad's... I'm not talking about you. My dad's wife is a fucking criminal, bro.
51:42
I never... I'm not talking...
51:44
I'm a better man than my wife's husband. I mean, dad, bro. I'm a better husband, man.
51:50
I'm not talking about you. I'm saying you are held together by your wife.
51:53
You don't need to expose yourself.
51:55
And you've got that in common because he's held together by his wife. And the reason why his wife can hold him together is because of her father. Do you understand what I'm saying? Everything was done right by that man. Do you understand?
52:09
So I go to the after party with Mosley.
52:12
Ah, Muesli is a vibe, dog. Fucking hell, bro. Really? Muesli.
52:17
No, Muesli.
52:19
Ah, that one is a party, bro. Party animal, bro. But she parties responsibly, bro.
52:24
No.
52:24
Trust me, dog. She doesn't go like last time or whatever. She has fun. And where we went, she was hosting. What's the life? I said I partied with Muesli for the first time.
52:36
At least she's part of a shopper.
52:38
Eh?
52:38
She doesn't go BBL and shit.
52:41
She doesn't go with beer. Shout out to her, man. She gave me a really good time with my wife. We had so much fun. Their burn was dope, bro. I can't wait for next year, bro. And then the following day, throughout the whole week, I was partying with Zana, bro. I left and right when she landed from Portugal. So I had so much fun, bro. Yeah. I was eating Portugal money. Which one? Gosa Zana.
53:00
I was eating Portugal money.
53:01
Gosa Zana is looking yo. I saw her side by side with Mahou. I was like, yeah.
53:07
Mahou better run.
53:09
For her life. You understand what I'm saying? Zana's shape, dog.
53:13
Is it? Yeah. The thing is, I don't see that shit, dog.
53:16
Like, for real, dog. Like, people think… I don't see Zana like that, bro. I know you don't. I don't even look at her like that. Like, at all, bro. I don't. Seriously, bro. But I like the fact that… No, she's in great shape, dog.
53:30
She's in great shape, dog. Like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo.
53:34
Yeah, then I met your mother there. Talking about good shape. That's your hands. My mother as a child. Yeah, I call mothers people I don't like.
53:44
Why don't you like them?
53:45
I call them your mother.
53:47
And your father also, right? Who's my father? You're saying father and mother.
53:51
Yeah, once I say your mother and father, you must know.
53:52
You don't like that person.
53:54
Yeah.
53:54
But you said Nuta. Earlier, that right there, you were like, here's your father. Referring to me as a father. Saying I am Nuta's father.
54:02
So you want to go to your ex-boy? No, man, come on. Not like that, bro. Come on. Not like that. So I meant that too hard. I was talking about you copying my tastes. So I'm sitting at a VIP where artists sit, and we're chilling.
54:16
She has a beautiful song out right now. She can fit in anyway.
54:23
It's amazing. It's beautiful. I've been waiting for that song. Okay, compliment your mother. You couldn't wait for new releases.
54:31
So you're going to talk about it again? I've been playing that song for the past two days in the Audi. You're going to talk about it again? Later, of course, yes. It deserves the shine. Doesn't deserve the shine.
54:40
Okay, yeah, you were saying though. She's a very disrespectful kid. Okay, I want to know what happened. How did she disrespect you in the section?
54:46
No, not in the section. I'm just saying from what she done, they can't really know what she done to me, bro. I hate it. Yeah, you need to move on.
54:52
I won't. I just want that deep. Nah, I won't. Well, carry on. Yeah, but you were saying she came and then what happened? She must apologize. She came and then what happened?
55:00
And then they put her where I was seated. So I'm here, my wife is here. Then they put her there. When she did class, like, yeah, stood up, went backstage straight.
55:10
She stood up? Yeah. I kid you not. She went to wait backstage for a good 15 minutes before her set. No, but why didn't you… No, she was coming in before performing.
55:21
She did this to you at another event previously, right?
55:25
She did it at the event where you got to talk to Babalu.
55:28
Yeah. Funny enough, I met Baba Lohem. She gave me a hug. Again. We'll get to Baba Lohem. Nigga, we'll get to Baba Lohem. You must smell good, my nigga.
55:35
You smell good. Let me smell you. What are you wearing there? No, I don't like wearing cologne. Listen. Oh, I love it. Why didn't you try to talk to Tato and just squash this whole thing? Why do you want the cat and mouse chase? No, no, no.
55:52
Bro, I feel like… When I felt I was wrong, I apologized. Right? When I felt I was wrong, after the whole pressure thing, I felt I was wrong, I apologized. And when I found out everything was planned and everything, I spoke to Maestro, dog. And I have proved, like I said, I can prove that that thing was planned and she knew about it. She knew about it. So if she didn't know, it's something different. So she knew that the plan was to try cancel us. So I don't understand that how, how as a podcast and chill network, we still promote this kid.
56:23
I don't understand because if she had managed to cancel the show, where were you going to promote her? Talk to me.
56:30
Okay. If she was successful with canceling the show, where was she going to promote her music? Talk to me.
56:39
Where? On TikTok like she's doing now. But here's the thing. I don't think she... You think she wanted to take it to that extent of canceling the show? That's the plan. Honestly, bro. This is...
56:51
This show sort of pushed her, bro. This show sort of made her. And this isn't why I have... I'm pissed at her. It's because... No, no, no. But you fucking work hard to put you on, bro. No, no, no. Wait, wait. Taki, let me help you. You won't hear yet. You won't hear yet.
57:04
Oh, it's fine.
57:04
No, but he knows.
57:05
Listen.
57:06
I need his help. No, no, no. Let him finish.
57:09
I want to counter. Don't worry. I'll come with the wisdom.
57:15
You should say Mkulu. Bro, I think she's... Everybody knows. I feel like people that watched music pop, Piano Pulse, knew that we'd always preach about Tato, Tato this, Tato this, right? Religiously. And that sort of pushed her label and everybody else to come feature her because she's that girl. We're not disputing her talent. She's very talented. She deserved to the shine. So I don't think... She knows what the show did for her. So I don't think she'd want to go to the extent of like getting us cancelled. What was she trying to do? So what I'm saying is you should have had a conversation with her. What if it's the people that are behind her that are trying to get us cancelled?
57:46
Yes, exactly. Maybe she didn't know. Maybe she was influenced. You don't know.
57:49
Okay, do you want to hear me out, Tahi?
57:50
Do you understand? Try to talk to her, bro. Yo, let me talk to you, Tahi. You can't be holding a grudge for this long time. Let me talk to you, Tahi. Be the bigger man. Tahi. I want to explain it to you. I want to explain it to you. I want to explain it to you.
58:03
You're old. Fuck them kids. If the kids don't respect us or me, fuck them kids, bro.
58:07
Okay, let me tell you why… Period. Fuck them kids, bro. Why he feels like that. When you help someone… Simple. Right? When you help someone… And then they realize that they're dependent on your help… Yeah. They will resent you. Do you understand? The person he was taking photos with… He might be giving me flowers… But that man hates me. He hates my guts. He hates the fact that I'm alive. Which one? He hates the fact that I'm breathing. Who? Me breathing. Miss question. Right? Me breathing.
58:33
is a reminder to him that the reason why he can eat is because of me.
58:38
The reason why he's clothed, fed, everything is because of me. You understand? Everything he has is because of me. Down to his stylist, who I gave a car, Ford Figo. You understand what I'm saying?
58:54
So, that's what you need to contend with.
58:59
When people know that this is the reason why I'm successful, they will resent you.
59:04
Because you are proof that they cannot do it on their own. You understand what I'm saying? He's lucky that Tato Arts is a woman.
59:12
He's lucky. The resentment that comes from a man, when a man has to go onto a public platform, as public as Podcast and Chill with Mack G, it's so big that Sueli needed to make sure he's got an interview done with Mack G before he leaves South Africa. He has to get onto the biggest platform. When a man has to come onto a public platform and his kids, his kids' friends, the parents of his kids' friends, his parents, parents, his in-laws, parents, his entire family, everyone needs to hear him say that, yo, I am in need of a dad.
59:51
I need a father.
59:54
You understand what I'm saying? Imagine your kids hearing that you need someone else to be your dad.
59:59
Swiso would never do that. He'd never admit it. He might know it, but he'd never admit it. Why? Because he knows his kids are watching. His kids cannot hear him on a podcast saying that, yo, I need someone else to be my dad. Because these kids will then ask themselves, then who's our dad?
60:13
What is our dad? If our dad needs someone else to be his dad, then what kind of dad do we have?
60:21
Okay, well, how would Swiso lead a dad? Please enlighten me there quickly.
60:25
Dog, everyone needs a dad. You know what I mean? What are you doing? You're disappearing when I'm talking again.
60:32
I was fixing my thing. It's too big now.
60:34
No, I was just covering… It's too big! I was just covering what Swiso was trying to explain about the resentment that he gets. So, her wanting to cancel the show is her admitting that the show is her father. The show created her. That resentment that she has is because she realized that damn, if it wasn't for this show, I would be nothing.
60:58
So she can't give the show her flowers or its flowers because she's a woman. You know, women are like that. You know, a man can at least admit even though he'll do it in private and do it in a sneaky, fucked up manner. You understand what I'm saying? So you just need to tell her, yo, I got no beef with you.
61:17
You know?
61:18
You're going to go on to do greater things that are even bigger than what Piano Pulse was able to do for you. So don't worry. You don't need to hate me. You don't need to avoid me. Tell her. She's watching right now, I'm sure.
61:30
No, no, no, no, no. I need to talk to her. She's watching. She's watching. She's chilling at Melo's easy studio right now. Yo, right now, bro. Until I get that apology, it's not happening. Right now, I'm rooting for Trace. Trace, can you please win? If you need my help, call me. No, don't do that. Don't do that.
61:45
Don't do that. No, it's done.
61:46
You're not my manager, bro.
61:48
Okay.
61:50
I'm not.
61:52
All right.
61:53
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63:11
There's four games left in the World Cup. Today is the first semi-final.
63:16
Tomorrow is another semi-final. Who's playing today?
63:19
Let me check. Today is France against Spain. Today. It's Tuesday? Yes. 15th.
63:27
Today is Tuesday? Okay.
63:31
14th of July.
63:32
Yeah.
63:33
You understand? It's France versus Spain. Who are you taking there? France versus France. Who are you supporting?
63:38
France.
63:40
France, Argentina, what's left?
63:44
No, relax. One game first. Not tomorrow's game. Tomorrow's game is England versus Argentina.
63:49
Akira, we're trying to bet now. We're trying to bet.
63:52
And England needed the hand of God to help them.
63:56
It was a cable.
63:57
It was a cable. But bro, Shane, you love soccer, bro. What would you call that? Should that have been called off?
64:08
I get it, the ball is supposed to have a sensor. The ball is supposed to have a sensor. Yeah, it has sensor. Apparently, they charge the ball now. You were saying.
64:16
No, no, I think it's part of the game.
64:18
It's part of the game? It's like a ball hitting the cone.
64:22
If the ball strikes any object, anyone that's not part of the 11 playing players on the field, right? If it strikes the referee, it's a drop ball. That's it.
64:33
Yeah, referee. But what happens when it hits the corner cone?
64:36
It stays inside. It's continuing playing. Just like the cable then.
64:40
That's not the point. What do you mean that's not the point? The corner cone is not the cable.
64:43
You say if it hits any object besides the 11 players, it's a foul. Okay, okay, okay.
64:48
Who are you guys betting on? Back to music. I'm not betting. France. I'm betting on France. I'm betting on France. Yeah. I'm supporting Spain.
64:56
Okay, when you get the money, go to Hollywood. Let's go. Next.
64:59
Next.
65:01
Shout out, man. Moving on to current vibes, comrades, man. Oh. There's so much to talk about. Why are we moving on? We're moving on, bro. I saw my brother, Shibishit, was on court on Thursday.
65:14
How are you guys related?
65:17
Oh, shit. He's my brother from another mother. I did a lot of shows with that man. That man filled up venues, bro. That man, I made a lot of money through that man. That man gave me nice bookings, bro. The crowd loves that man. So I gotta love that man. You made money as what? That man is business, bro. You made money as what? As a promoter, as an event organizer.
65:32
As a promoter, he was making you money. That's why you support him.
65:35
No, no, I still love him. He's a good person at heart.
65:38
I've had nice interactions with the man. He's a good person. I love you as a person. I've shared hotel rooms with the man. He's a nice guy.
65:44
Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Did he give you bitches?
65:47
You didn't have to.
65:48
You didn't have to?
65:48
I can fend for myself.
65:50
Ah, nonsense.
65:51
I can't.
65:52
I can't fend for myself.
65:57
Worker's bent.
65:57
So I saw that he had two… This guy… This guy's a problem. He has an agenda. And my feet are also… Let me tell you. What did I say? Why are you telling my feet are also… Oh, okay. Because I feel like you're one person that don't understand me. Okay.
66:16
Why?
66:17
I do understand you.
66:17
Tell me. The day will come. He's got a work wife as well.
66:21
He works with his wife.
66:24
Yeah.
66:25
That's one.
66:28
So they added two more charges.
66:30
Oh. Now it's 22 or 21?
66:33
He's got 21 charges now. 21. It was 19 initially, right? And then they added two more which makes it 21 now. Like the candles on your girl's birthday cake. I think they added one for his daughter.
66:45
Remember the driving?
66:47
Yeah, that was one of the charges that was added. And I was like, damn. That is crazy.
66:51
That's the charge that I said needs to be added. Danko!
66:56
I was like, that one is a bit… That one is a bit too harsh, man.
66:59
No, it's not. No, it's not.
67:01
Are you aborting babies?
67:04
I was like… Are you aborting babies? In my language, I'd say that… Do you abort?
67:13
You've never aborted?
67:14
Are you sure?
67:15
100%.
67:16
100% sure?
67:17
Do you understand?
67:19
That's like abortion after nine years. No, man. It is. It's not the same thing. If you drive recklessly… You drink and drive.
67:28
You crash into a stationary truck. Stationary. Even on your GPS, the GPS that was directing you to where you were going to go from an ANC to an EFFK, go the other way around, whatever the case may be. That GPS tells you, A, stationary vehicle.
67:43
There's a hazard ahead.
67:45
And you crash directly into it.
67:48
How do you crash directly into something that's stationary?
67:50
And then your daughter dies.
67:53
That's irresponsible as a father.
67:55
Yeah, if it was me, I don't think I would mind to go do time for it. We're not saying it's good that he did it. Anyway, for me, out of all the charges he has, I'd rather make sure that that one counts more than any other charges.
68:14
Okay, do you think that Shebeshit would have been, if he was free, would have been booked at AfroNation?
68:22
Exactly.
68:24
That's an Amapiano event, man. Come on.
68:26
It's not Amapiano. It's an Afrobeats event. That's why it's called Afroation. Yeah, but is he an Afrobeats artist?
68:30
That's the matter.
68:31
The biggest place you can make it, bro, from Lecompo, is Johannesburg, bro.
68:35
Mid-rank to be exact. All right. The state recently added culpable homicide and reckless and negligent driving charges.
68:44
Wow. Yeah. Wow. And then moving on, comrades. Wow. Moving on, just like that. That's a very big deal. Talk about it.
68:53
No, no, I said my part. I still, I think, I don't think. He's still a brother from another mother. I mean, bro, for me it was a, that was a mistake. What type of mistake is there, dog? If you're drinking and driving, how do you call it a mistake, dog? I mean, the hurt, the trauma you went through, bro.
69:07
Okay, tell your sponsors there that when you think it's a mistake if you drink and drive and get into an accident and someone dies. Tell them.
69:13
On the night. Audi, listen to him. It hasn't been confirmed that on the night when the daughter passed away that he was drinking. What was he driving? No, no, no. What was he driving? What was he driving?
69:23
He was driving a... Was he not driving a VW? VW? Audi? Listen to your man. What are you doing, bro?
69:29
What are you doing?
69:30
Now you see.
69:32
No, I don't see nothing. So tell the people. No, listen. How wrong he was. Bro, nobody, no father wants to kill their daughter. Nobody wants to do that. Unless... You would do anything for your kids. Unless... If you had any, you probably would. Unless... Do you understand? Unless what? Unless what?
69:48
I do a lot for you. Unless what? You do what for me? Exactly. Don't make me open my mouth. Open it. Open it. Open it. Open it. Open it.
69:57
Bro, this nigga just say open it.
70:00
Open it. No, no father wants to hurt their child unless they want to do a child sacrifice. Yeah.
70:15
That's it. That's all I'm saying.
70:27
Now the charge is back. That was the charge that Shamila Batoi was sitting on.
70:34
Now she's gone. Now the charge is there. Just imagine. Nigga had enough influence to have Shamila Batoi not put charges on him.
70:43
Now Mutibi's in charge.
70:46
Advocate, Mutibi. Former SIU. He's a what? He's a what? He's a what?
70:51
Are you repeating? What are you doing?
70:55
What language does he speak?
70:56
Mutibi. What language is that? He's a vendor. He's a vendor. He's a vendor. I'm a vendor's name.
71:09
Hey man, were you invited to the Kabza thingy launch? When he was launching his record label? Did you get an invite?
71:15
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did get an invite from Junior LSA. Where did you go? The best… Junior LSA? Yeah, one of the best Afro tech and Afro house producers we have.
71:26
Really? Yeah, yeah. Him and Takabo. Has he ever worked with… He's worked with everybody. Shimza.
71:33
Hmm…
71:35
I'm asking a question because if Shimza's really trying to put on effort take… I don't think so. You understand what I'm saying? Is Shimza really trying to put on effort take or is he using it just to put himself on?
71:44
No. I don't think you have… No, no, no. I was still tired. Okay.
71:53
You don't support sellouts?
71:54
No, no, no, bro. I love Junior, I would say, bro.
71:57
I'm talking about Kabza. I get he sold out F&B, right?
72:00
Let me give our apostles.
72:02
I'm not talking about him selling out Amma Piano and starting a new record label.
72:06
That is a good spin.
72:07
That is a good spin. Don't get excited.
72:18
To give a process context, man, Governor Small has officially announced the launch of his new Afrotech record label and creative hub. The vision goes beyond signing artists. The label aims to become a home for Afrotech music, nurturing talent, developing producers and helping grow the genre both locally and internationally. The first official signing is Junior Art. Junior SA.
72:42
Junior?
72:43
Junior SA.
72:44
J-N-R underscore?
72:46
Just J-N-R-S-A.
72:48
That's dope, man.
72:50
Let's clap for the end of his career. Clap for what?
72:53
The end of his career.
72:55
Where's the end? Why?
72:55
Tell me, who has been signed to Kabza that is still hot right now?
73:07
Let me tell you something quickly when it comes to Junior. Junior didn't start with Gabza. He was his first signing. He was under Moby Dick scene. He comes from a lot of artists and he never gave up. He kept… I think at some point he was with Dak.
73:21
He kept going bro. Dak.
73:22
Yeah.
73:24
So I don't think it's a boy to give up because now the label is probably slowing down or whatever. Like this, the invites and the press release, he sent them to me directly, bro. He did?
73:38
Yeah.
73:38
Have you ever gotten an invite or press release from Piano Hub?
73:42
No, but I got it. Piano Hub did it and he's got more access to me.
73:46
Have you ever gotten a press release from Piano Hub?
73:48
No, no, no.
73:49
So he's doing more than Piano Hub has done for his service. That's not what I'm saying. So maybe they're turning over a new leaf. Maybe I'm too early to judge.
73:54
Yeah, but what I think… I think they do set up press releases, just not to him. Not to me.
73:58
They are sending them out. Yeah. But they send you clothes.
74:01
No, I buy them. Oh, lovely. No, no, no. You support their store and they can't even send you a press release.
74:07
I bought it. I went to the store actually and bought it in Midway.
74:10
Damn.
74:11
Which one?
74:12
Somewhere in Midland.
74:13
Oh, the PAPTA thing. The hoodie. Oh, dope, yeah. You were saying?
74:17
Oh, so you buy this thing. Because I saw in the comments, they're like, yo, do they know the danger of associating the PAPTA brand with Sviso? Why does Kabza keep giving Sviso all these PAPTA clothes? Because, you know, it's going to do damage, irreparable damage to his brand. That's what they said in the comments. I read every comment, remember?
74:36
Do you know that? I don't know that because I get people saying, I need to, can you please send them the link to the store? So I don't know. Yeah, but bro, it's not gifts, dog. I buy because I like it.
74:48
I have receipts, bro. No, but yesterday, I don't think you like it.
74:51
I support him as a musician and I support every initiative he comes with as long as a person is created as a human being. And I buy for myself. Because you like it. I buy because I like it. It's not because I'm the face of… I'm the face of Papta.
75:08
No, but honestly, I don't think you'd be like a bedrape. I don't think you'd be a bedrape. I don't think you'd be a bedrape for Papta. I think you'd do well with it.
75:17
You understand? No, but there's haters also.
75:19
So this is what happens. Hold on.
75:22
How come you gave me a just piano hoodie? You didn't give me a Papta hoodie. That Papta hoodie that you had on last week, that was fire. I bought it. I know. Why don't you give it to me?
75:35
1.8. How?
75:38
Nothing.
75:39
1.8. How much are your boots?
75:42
Ah, bro, don't do that. You're not going to do that shit now. I'm talking about the hoodie now. 3.7. You want to talk about my drip now or clothes or whatever. I like your cap. Shut up. You're not going to get that compliment. No, this one is cheap. It's twice the price of the PAPTA hoodie. Yeah, so… I'm not doing it because I'm getting… Kabza is giving me… I like bro.
76:02
Every time I interact with Kabza, he gives me positive energy and he never talks about work. Like we just have fun as brews bro. And when I go buy stuff from Kabza, it's generally support and the hood is a dope design.
76:15
He gives you love all the time.
76:17
I'm asking you. Was he betting on any of the horses?
76:21
I don't know. He was busy playing around the Maquis. He was busy. I think he was most booked, right? I'd like to think so. How do you know? I saw him a lot. No Maquis. I saw him at the… So no Maquis.
76:37
I saw him at the Opulent. I saw him at, I think he was at the Saisos also. He came to the Saisos. He played at the Saisos before I left. He was there. Opulent. He was just moving around a lot. You know, he was a busy man. He was a busy booked man. He did it back to back with the case at Opulent. It was really dope. Really?
76:53
It was really dope.
76:54
Really dope.
76:55
They were niggas in the lab.
76:57
Yeah, they were niggas, niggas, niggas, the sound. It was really dope.
77:00
It was niggas sound. So you were saying anyway, sorry, I interrupted you.
77:03
I think I said everything I wanted to say, bro.
77:05
So you support this Junior R-S-A? Yeah, okay. Oh, Junior S-A, sorry.
77:09
J-N-R. And Junior, bro, is like a top producer, bro. From like when he was still a boy, boy, boy, bro. How old is he now? I met him with Moby Dixie in the beginning. Which song he made that is big, bro? But he's got songs with pretty much every Afro-tech artist in the country. Like he's… After Da Cabo, I think he's the next source.
77:28
I wonder Moby Dixie is the one that discovered Musagi.
77:31
Love Color Spin.
77:33
He doesn't have a wiki, no?
77:38
I'm just giving you scatterlings of stories.
77:40
He doesn't have a Wikipedia.
77:42
Happy birthday to myself. Happy 30th birthday to myself. Is he 30? Six months ago. Junior essay.
77:50
How old is Kabza?
77:53
Is he not your age? I don't know. My age. He dropped the EP. It's really dope, bro. I have it. He's a very young boy. I'm listening to it, bro. I can share it with you. It's not out. It's really, really dope, bro.
78:03
How old is he, dog? Google there.
78:04
Yeah, this nigga's 30. 35? 36, my dog. I went past 35. He's not 32. No, man, come on. I'm no longer a youth.
78:19
No, man. You must respect me. He's 33. He's a 92. He's a 92. He's a 92. No, he's still going to chow. Yo, yo, yo. That nigga's still going to live.
78:30
Who?
78:30
He's 32. Oh, he's 33, bro. He's 33. He's a 93. He's a 92. He's a 92. He's a 92. Oh, he's MT's age.
78:36
He's MT's age.
78:47
Yeah, so I wanted to say Junior won't give up, no matter what happens. If he feels like it's not being done his way, he's still going to do his way also to get shit done. Because like I say, when a label signs you, to everybody who are signing the label, doesn't mean that you get to just wake up 10 every day and the label must do everything. You must do your bit. So I think he's one of them.
79:11
Otherwise, you'll miss the label.
79:15
You'll be explaining to both Sol Penduga how you need them.
79:19
Hey man, moving on to Afro Nation. I saw a lot of videos from Afro Nation. It happened this past weekend. I saw the likes of Just Gigi was there. I saw Royal Music had a really dope performance. I enjoyed seeing that on there. You saw it? Yeah, I saw it online. I saw clips of it online. The crowd is really jamming. There was no live stream. They did the kupuga papapal. But remember, I was in there in July and they were outside. He's got dancers now. Who? Royal. Yeah, he's always had dancers. Did you get any FOMO? Wow. No, no, no, I didn't get any FOMO, bro.
79:51
I didn't get any FOMO. Don't say it like that. I had it like last year.
79:53
Calmly so we can believe you.
79:54
No, last year. Last year I had FOMO. But nah, not anymore, bro. Why? I don't think it's a thing anymore. Take it slow. Why? Why did you have FOMO this year?
80:02
This is the first time you were comfortably leaving Limpopo and you were freezing.
80:08
You were freezing when you were about to leave Pretoria to go to Devon. What did you call your hat? Nigga, is this my first time in Durban? You did in and out.
80:16
Let me tell you what it is. What do you mean I did in and out?
80:18
Let me tell you what it is.
80:19
Njolo is greater than Jolof. So you would have gone there to Afro Nation to eat Jolof. But he stayed at Devon July from Jolof.
80:26
Let me tell you something. Let me tell you why I left on Sunday. I went to Durban, right? For the Durban July. I went to see the vibes at Durban July. To go to the Marquis, to see the runways, to see what happens at Durban July. I didn't go to Durban for the groove. Where did you end up? I just went for the Cubs and Hennessy friends thing on a Friday because I was invited. I was part of the promoters. I did that. Where did you end up? Bro, we have better groove in Gauteng.
80:51
We have better groove this side. Durban is probably third in Houteng. That's what I'm saying. So why would I want to go experience groove in a place that comes third to us? No, it can't come there, bro. We probably, Houteng and Pretoria and Joburg, bro, we probably have the best groove in the world. There's a chance we have the best groove in the world.
81:08
Because of Joburg and Pretoria, but it's one province, bro. Do you understand, bro? No, it can come forth. Because East Rand as well.
81:14
East Rand, I think. So, I wasn't excited to go to Devonor. I love six hours.
81:24
It doesn't find you. It's not that enjoyable. To be honest with you. Well done, my boy. What? Hold on, give me five. I don't want to get lost in this thing. Let me just...
81:40
It gets annoying at a point. It gets annoying. You don't enjoy gom. You need drugs. I grew up around gom.
81:47
I was selling mkwinyo for gom artists. You were selling mkwinyo? Yeah, when I was a kid. You were telling people that you were selling drugs. I did. It went together. It went hand in hand. Mkwinyo in gom went hand in hand. Back in the days. Exactly. No artist will come and deny that shit. And I was one of the guys who were selling it. I was working for someone. I was a kid. What the fuck are you talking about? Okay, don't. I'm not selling drugs.
82:11
I'm not proud.
82:13
What is being proud? Okay, you're not proud. No, I'm responding to you saying... I'm responding to you saying... Gomp doesn't slap to me. He doesn't slap, bro. That's my preference. That's my choice. So you must slap. No, bro, we're hot. We're hot. What are you doing? I'm trying to see if you can do it without taking the drugs.
82:38
You need to take the drugs.
82:41
So that's why I don't really like the Durban club culture. And the clubs are too packed, bro. It was so hot in the clubs. I was like, no, I'm not doing this. It's hot everywhere in Durban. It's humid. Like Miami. Do you understand what I'm saying?
83:02
Everyone Asian, my nigga. What did you see? What did I see? A couple of reviews.
83:07
Tell us.
83:08
There's some artists that had bad performance based on the people that were there. There's a guy from Canada that calls me now and then he was there. And there's a guy from the UK. He was saying he didn't enjoy Mahou's performance. He feels like Mahou needs to… Like… Grow her performances.
83:32
Mahou needs to grow her performances. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Like, depending on where you're going to perform, he feels like she should come all out. Like, it's a big festival. You understand? So, they felt like she treated the same festival… She treated the festival like the same gig that she would do in Moloko, for instance. That's how they felt. That's how they felt?
83:53
You know, here's what I heard, right? Remember when we did the… The Mahou Secret Garden, right? Remember Mamacita was there. Guys, the performers are supposed to take to… No, no. So I spoke to Mamacita that night and she was like, no, I think… Mamacita, it's a… It's a Mamacita. That girl, what's her name?
84:15
And then we went to the strip club with. The girl went to the strip club with Siso. What's her name? It's a Mamacita.
84:24
It's a brood, man. No, not Mamacita, man. The other girl, the girl that dances. We took her to the strip club and I was throwing money on her. That one. Melita. Melita. Melita, I remember she was dancing at Secret Garden, right? And then after that, she was like, no, I have a meeting with Mawu this week or tomorrow or whatever. She wants to take me to... Afronation. Right. So was she not with Mawu?
84:44
I don't know. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. But that's what… And that guy is actually one of the event organizers actually. Okay. That came and told me that.
84:52
Now they felt like… They have to get visas for those dancers by the way. So they can't just book them…
84:57
Last minute.
84:58
Yeah. Which means they had to apply for visas in advance.
85:03
They felt like that was their biggest disappointment as people who do the bookings on some… You brought the same performance that you took to… You can take to Molokko to Afghanistan. There was something to it. Okay, tell me, which Nigerian performer performed better? According to them, her performance was just the same one. We experienced when we go to live and they said about it.
85:22
How did they go to live?
85:25
I went to it. Don't get distracted.
85:28
So, and I asked Gossesana, how was it? She was going there for the second, if not the third time. It's just like, ah, every year is different, but I had fun this year. And there was more like, more beautiful people. Like, it's becoming more like a fashion...
85:46
Like the fashion is more interesting than the music itself.
85:50
The summer fashion. Yeah.
85:52
In Portugal. I think they need to now go to that direction. Because also now, it goes back to what I said about Lecompo. When I said, you know, I'm not going to the next balcony mix here, Lecompo. Why? Because I'm waiting for new music to drop. Because I'm going to go there. They're going to play the same playlist, the same songs.
86:09
They don't miss the sequence. Mmm. You understand? I get you. I get you. No, you're good. We heard you. No, why? Bro. Monotan, have you ever… You're spinger.com, bro. We let you… Tell him to listen to Swiso. Tell him, Nuta. Obviously, he needs to. It's part of that. No, no, don't cut.
86:37
No, I don't want to help. I cut it. Listen, have you ever spoken to your boss via call, via text?
86:44
A lot.
86:45
How did that go?
86:46
You spoke to him? Yeah, he was asking for advice. I'm sure this is the most hard show to produce.
86:51
I want you to listen to this one, bro. I want you to listen to... You spoke to hit boss and you asked him for advice.
86:55
He was asking for advice.
86:57
When was this?
86:57
I don't know. You can check my code.
86:59
Oh, he's definitely growing some balls.
87:02
No, no, no. I heard something different.
87:04
Why? What did you hear? You heard lies again and you want to repeat them.
87:07
And I'm not going to repeat them.
87:08
You'll correct me.
87:08
That's why... Be useful.
87:09
Bro, now you can't affirmations to fucking talk about... Nigga.
87:15
Shit, boss.
87:17
Oh, shit, boss, no?
87:18
Let's see. No, man. No, no, no. Disrespect me, bro. Don't disrespect me like that, bro. No, let me tell you. Because I was... I wanted to land and you cut me for fucking hit boss, bro.
87:26
I didn't cut you. How much does this guy pay you, bro? You were talking about Lokombo, right? And I remembered. I remembered. First of all, you were talking about the balcony mix. Hold on. I want to show you what you were talking about with regards to the balcony mix. Because he wanted to do something. Don't show people my text. He wanted to do something.
87:44
Castile.
87:49
Okay, here's what, oh yeah.
87:53
Really?
87:55
Lots of conversations, huh?
87:57
Starting when? I don't know. This is starting last year, last year October.
88:03
So you guys have been speaking.
88:07
Damn, so what advice was he looking for exactly?
88:10
I don't know. I can't remember.
88:11
Can't remember. It's not that important. So you cut me for nonsense. No, I wanted this.
88:15
I just wanted to know that if they've spoken, but somebody was telling me, and stuff. So I want to make sure that it's true. That's verifying for you also. So that you know. Everything I say is verifiable, dog. Yeah. I know, but you never told me. I'm the one that brought it up. I mean. Bro, I don't hate it, boss.
88:29
You guys must move on from that shit. Yeah. Yeah. I say you must loosen up and let the kids eat. Nigga, let's move. You brought him up. So now I want to eat him in your behalf, in your account.
88:39
Why did you bring him up? Because I was talking about serious things. A very important event. And then now you decided, you decided, you're going to cut me to put a hit boss into the conversation. Yeah, but do you understand how it linked? Do you understand how it linked? No, it did not link. At all. It did link. That was bad.
88:54
You were saying you don't want to go to the Lokompo thing because it's the same thing. Yeah, why did you care? Because I'm the one who said it. No, but remember, I was adding, he was adding on to, I want to do something for the balcony mix. That's why. He wants to make it better. He wants to take it to a different province. Do you understand what I'm saying?
89:11
Go deal with your boss, bro. No, continue. Continue. Continue.
89:15
I was interested.
89:17
Before Turkey, that is what he always does. You were cooking, dog. This guy said, stop the stove. Please, continue.
89:24
Cook. So, um...
89:28
I didn't forget because it was important for me to say this.
89:30
So I didn't eat before we recorded. I'm hungry. Cook, dog.
89:33
Portugal is like that event, the Afro Nations, I think it's time it comes to South Africa because I think what's failing them is and the reason why they keep booking the same people is that they already have the rates for the same people they book and now they're working with these artists. They're not taking new artists to like, I think next year, It's about time. Let's make up the headliners. Do you understand what I'm saying?
90:03
It's an example.
90:04
I'm not saying it has to be fellow. I'm saying it's an example. I'm just saying your fellows have fallen off.
90:10
Now, oh no. No, no, no. No, they don't have hype anymore. I don't expect you to understand Fellow's brand and they do. We can talk about it now.
90:16
You haven't heard of it because you're dancing with it because of Felton.
90:19
Yeah, that's why I say I don't expect him to understand Fellow's brand. I've known Fellow's since he started, dog. Because I'm sure last time you heard about Fellow was with Cindy McCartini. Because he was dating a hot chick. That's the last time you had. But I follow him and I follow him. You're smashing there, Velvel. You're smashing Cindy. Allegedly. You're smashing? Oh, yeah. Allegedly. I need Steve.
90:40
She's not allegedly, dog.
90:41
I met her, Devin, dog. Cindy. How was it? The club. Rich. Was it Rich? Yeah, I met her.
90:46
How was she?
90:46
Guys, she's a good person. Yeah, I did. How does she smell? I don't taste people's smell, dog. What do you mean you don't taste? Do you smell everything? I don't go.
90:58
Cajun smell are the same thing, guys. For those who don't know. I thought when you had COVID, you couldn't taste and you couldn't smell.
91:04
I don't know. You must stop that thing, bro. Just deal with your smell, bro. Do like Zimbabweans do.
91:11
No, it's just a joke, dog.
91:12
Do like Zimbabweans do. Yeah, they deal with their own smell. Okay.
91:16
They can't smell it.
91:20
They deal with it.
91:23
They can… Now that you're done. Now that you already brought your boss into the conversation. On to a big show.
91:29
You're making bed rows now.
91:33
Don't go to Meandu's. So I think it's time we take over Afro Nations. Let's bring it to Deben. If it's about the beach, we can do it in Deben. If it's about the beach. And can we please do it ourselves? We can do it, right? Can I just make a challenge, guys?
91:48
If it's about the beach… Zimasa needs to do an economic assessment, right? What's Zimasa's name on social media? What's Zimasa's name? Mustafa. Sorry, man.
92:01
Mustafa, that's what he's called. Mustafa must do an economic assessment of how big the Durban July event is, right? In terms of what it brings to the Durban economy and how big AfroNation is in terms of what it brings to the Algarve economy.
92:19
Durban July is much bigger than AfroNation.
92:22
The events that happen in South Africa are much bigger than any of these events happening anywhere in the world.
92:29
And the sad part about it, why didn't they boycott us? Why? Because people who do those bookings, Zimbabweans and what, what, why do they still book South Africa? They can't. They need them. Who's going to go to the event with that Amartiano? I must stop this thing. It's how you book us and you leave us alone. Simple. Why? Because you're going to pick. Oh, so we're just not allowed to enter Zim.
92:48
Who's we? You and my cards. No, no, I mean the cards. 31 July.
92:52
31 July?
92:52
Yeah. What happened? 31 July, she's supposed to have a show in Zimbabwe. And now they want to cancel it. So she's deciding she'd rather release her album on 31 July. The album you've been working on.
93:02
You should know all about that. They can cancel her. It's fine. She's got money, bro. She doesn't need her money. What will she do? Doesn't need money.
93:08
What will she do? What will she do? Release her album 31 July and then what else?
93:12
She owns her own festivals and they sell out, bro.
93:14
You understand what I'm saying?
93:15
Yeah.
93:16
And people buy? What?
93:17
What?
93:18
her music and tickets.
93:19
No, they buy tickets. So, she doesn't need that, bro. Like, cancelling my cards is stupid. Then why was she glazing them? Why was she bending over backwards for these people? You missed the context of the issue there and I don't want to go. The context of the issue is they taught the boy that died is a Tsonga boy from Limpopo.
93:35
She's Venda. What does that have to do with her? It's Limpopo. It doesn't matter. What does that have to do with her? It has to do with her. She's dating a Tsonga man. She's dating a Tsonga man. Just like you did. At least she's still dating in the country.
93:45
You went and dated in Zimbabwe, bro.
93:48
I married.
93:49
Right.
93:49
You understand?
93:50
And then now you are here. I was there. I was there.
93:55
I was there.
93:56
I was in the Abahambe line while eating it.
93:59
While eating. During eating.
94:02
Hey, when I told her, are you busy with Matamed? Hey, leave it. So now, man, what's wrong with being busy with Matamed?
94:12
Oh, nothing wrong with it. You're just copying me.
94:17
So, hey. Back to the pop. Anyway. So, that was… She thought the guy… It matters to her. Because we don't think the same way. Because some of you guys… You… I believe you… You think the most important people in the country is Zulu people. So, you don't even see… No, I don't. You wouldn't even see the wrong thing with what the king did yesterday. This video that's training with the king. So, you wouldn't even see that.
94:40
I already called out Zulus. I already called out Zulus. No, I didn't call out the king. I called out Zulus, dog. They're busy writing in Isu Zulu because they want to hide Usazo. Of the fact that their king has got a... What is he, a stepfather?
94:56
The king is a stepfather. The father of their nation is a stepfather.
94:59
You understand what I'm saying?
95:00
The father of their nation is a stepfather.
95:04
For the first time ever, I saw Gizwe trying to... Defend him. Then I'm like, Gizwe... He was saying nothing, but it's a whole video of a good five minutes. He's saying nothing. Bro, it's okay to be a Zulu man and still come out and say, listen, I was wrong.
95:29
Our king is doing nails.
95:30
You want a king to come out and say I was wrong? I would respect a king that does that. King! Come out and say it's wrong with the bingers. No, no, no. I would respect a king that does that than a king that bullies woman. That is not... And now, I'm waiting for Jacinta... How is it bullying women? That is not... I'm waiting for Jacinta to come out... How is it bullying women? Of what? I'm waiting. Of what? There's a woman being abused. Where is Jacinta when we need you the most? No, bro. It's not... You know what I... You know what I learned yesterday?
95:53
Why must Justin get into the marriages of other people? It's a woman. So people must get into your marriage now.
95:59
No, no, no. Wait. Hold on. Hold on. If a video of me trans beating up my wife, for instance.
96:05
We saw you beating up other pussies.
96:07
Which pussy did I beat you?
96:08
That's it! Ah, sugar.
96:17
Are you sure your dad's not songer?
96:23
There's difference between baking and spanking.
96:25
Are you sure your dad is not songer?
96:26
You must do a DNA test. I'm sure what? Your dad must be from Limpop or something. Apparently, they're on open chest. They were like, hey, who's fiso? Their jaws dropped. They're like, ah!
96:37
Apparently you're packing.
96:37
Why are you guys body shaming me bro? You're packing!
96:42
Okay guys, let's talk about why am I being body shamed dog? On open chats. Yeah, why am I being body shamed dog? Like why is it fine to be body shamed?
96:51
Oh dog, if you're packing, you're packing dog.
96:52
Nah bro, you can't body shamed you. You wanna be a Slim Jim? Let's talk body shaming bro. Body shaming is not good bro.
96:57
You wanna join, what's his name? Sway Lee.
97:01
Look at his bandmate's Slim Jim.
97:04
Oh.
97:07
Yeah, but anyway, man. Back to music. Continue long, John.
97:11
Come on, bro. Are you happy with people body shaming me?
97:15
I'm giving you your flowers, pal.
97:17
What flower is that, bro?
97:20
The Mandingo.
97:23
You happy? With what?
97:25
You happy is dealing with me. With what?
97:28
With body shaming. I don't know. I wasn't sure.
97:32
We're good with every nation. We're good with everything.
97:34
Yeah, no. What I want to ask is… It's time for Zimbabweans to give us back our Afro nations.
97:41
We can call it South African nations or whatever we want to call it. South African nations. But the event is ours. It's around us. It's made for because of us. So it should come back. There's another event that people from Zimbabwe that stay in the UK are trying to have… What is it? People something. People's park. They're doing the people's park. Invest. Cape Town. Cape Town. No, don't go there. Don't do that.
98:05
Sell us those concepts, we will buy. And we will keep it to ourselves. We've got money in South Africa. Yeah, we can buy it. We pay more taxes than all of your countries. Bottom line is, I'm not happy with big events.
98:16
With South African big events being hosted outside the country by outsiders.
98:21
I win.
98:22
I've been saying this.
98:23
Yeah. It's only the first time I said it on Piano Pulse before.
98:27
You didn't wash his hands, that's why.
98:29
Oh man.
98:35
Oh, I think everybody's been saying this for years, man. I know Miss Mega.
98:40
And the words I've been using is Mazu Labolele aka.
98:45
It's true. Right. Now there's like new video out now.
98:50
This came from Muse24. I saw a bit of it yesterday and more of it today. Um… Where he's basically in the hotel room.
99:00
Not the whole scene, but it shows when he made the call. Why don't they have a TV today? Because I'd like to play that clip. It's so long. It's super long. I'm sure they played it yesterday, no?
99:10
Probably. They should have. He made the call to reception to alert them that it's someone that's attempting to jump. And as he was still on the call and they had the noise.
99:20
Right. Whatever.
99:22
So he couldn't have pushed that.
99:24
Yeah. Seems like he's innocent. Because it was a handheld phone.
99:29
So his hands were occupied. Seems like he's innocent in this case.
99:33
And obviously, you guys were saying, well, a lot of people, not you guys, but South Africa was saying he was killed by that person's family because they were revenging the daughter's death. Do you understand?
99:43
Do you think we should talk about this? Are you sure? I'm happy to talk about it. What's your name? What's your name? What's your name? What's your name? What's your name?
99:51
What's your name? No, no, go down to the country. The country should know that, I mean, the man is...
99:55
Innocent. Well, it looks to be innocent.
99:57
No, I'm talking about the accusation that you got killed in Durban because the owner of Sizekaya. What's Sizekaya? The company that runs the lottery.
100:08
Oh, yeah. They go about a day. You being smart.
100:11
I don't know shit. Now I'm being smart.
100:12
Because you know that shit. I don't know what the fuck.
100:14
You don't know that shit. You're just talking.
100:16
Just talking. And you're wanting to go to Durban.
100:20
Nothing will happen to you. I'm just reporting.
100:22
All I'm saying is that… If someone takes you out in Durban… They can win the lottery next week.
100:27
Sviso?
100:30
Look man… Sviso, you got kids. Sviso, nigga. Own up.
100:35
What the fuck bro? I want to say hello.
100:38
Sviso's got kids though.
100:39
What I wanted to say is bro like… With the whole situation bro… I still prefer to keep… The best memories I have… With him and Anil… on TV, on social media that we saw. Those are the memories I want to keep. I don't want to see the memories of Coffins. No, I want to keep KKA's music. He was a happy chant. He laughed loudly, bro. Never hide his relationship. Those are the memories I want to keep of KKA. Can we now get to a point where we let the court decide what happens, where it happens?
101:13
And bro, man, KKA was so much bigger than this, bro. Like seriously bro.
101:21
Like seriously bro. So I don't choose to go deep into whatever happened there bro. There's a lot that happened between two people.
101:27
Anele hosts the lottery show.
101:30
She hosts the lottery show?
101:31
Okay.
101:32
Anele.
101:33
Obviously.
101:33
Okay.
101:34
The other one's no longer here. Exactly.
101:37
What about her?
101:38
I'm just saying that Anele hosts the lottery show. She decides who wins the lottery. Or they decide who wins the lottery. And it's back to a live lotto draw now.
101:47
They decide?
101:49
Allegedly.
101:50
Okay, they don't sponsor us. We have our own sponsors when it comes to betting and shit like that. So, the point I'm trying to make is… How are you sure?
101:57
Can we… Do you know that Moses Dembe used to… Oh, he owned the company that owns Superbets.
102:05
One of the first betting companies to sponsor on this platform.
102:09
For real?
102:10
Hmm.
102:11
Oh, dope. Okay, cool. So, yeah. Can we... Can we keep the good memories we have about Kine and Anele? Yeah. And cherish that. They entertained us for a good time, bro. Like, we had the best time, bro. It was good. Social media was dope. It was nice to be on social media when... When they were together, when… It was nice, bro. They always give something to watch. So, that's what I want to keep, bro. What happened when, how… Make sure your 21-year-old is Lekka. It's God's… In the head.
102:41
Lekka in the cup.
102:42
Yeah, I don't know. I never met… You're laughing when I talk.
102:46
Is your 21-year-old Lekka in the cup?
102:48
I don't have a 21-year-old. There's new appointments there by Sony, right? There's new NR consultants. Shout out to Dima Katsu. Dima! Who is Sima's former manager. Who? Dima. Sima's former manager. Sima's former manager. Yeah. Hey, there's lots of appointments there by spreading humors, eh? And then there's Neto Shakwane, who is 10 times Guluva. He's also the A&R consultant at Sony. And there is also… That guy who manages Scots. Yes, that guy that moves to Scots.
103:19
And there's now a senior marketing specialist. His name is Tina Bouyeye. So we're happy for them. Shout out to Sony for these appointments, man. Senior marketing specialist.
103:27
He's the one that got Scots to number one most Googled, right?
103:32
No, Scots… No, no, no. That's not him. That's a different guy.
103:35
How? You said he's the...
103:36
He's the same Scots, Mapum. He rolls with Scots. No, that's not him. That's Neto Shakwane. Okay. This guy is Tina Buyeye. Oh, that's the Scots guy.
103:45
Scots guy is 10 times Gulu Van Neto. That's the guy that helped Scots get to number one on the coast.
103:53
I don't think so. Is he that close? Is he really in Scots team?
103:56
Then why did they hire him?
103:59
No, no, no. I know him. I interacted with him a couple of times.
104:02
I interacted with him a couple of times. He's a well-aware type of guy.
104:15
He knows what happens around him.
104:18
Bro, I think he deserves the job. My biggest question, my million dollar question is, to conceptualize it, didn't Sony give us, six months ago, A&R team, what do I do?
104:29
Last year. Bro, those were the, I think those were the execs. There was a big position. No, no, no, those were A&R. No, there was A&R. I bought Beash and all of them. We spoke about it last year.
104:38
No, but remember, this one, this one is A&R. Bro, bro, bro, bro. My lady, we'll do shit to you. Wait, let me finish, dog. Every time we come from people that you close to them, you want to defend. Bro, I'm not going after Malaj. I have a question. What have you guys done after that reshuffle? Nothing. Till now. Now you are adding. There's no ANR signing.
104:58
What is the plan, bro? None of the ANRs are signing anyone.
105:01
What is the plan, bro?
105:02
The ANRs are waiting for independent labels to sign artists, right? And then they sign the independent label and they sign the artists one by one.
105:11
What is the plan bro? That's the plan. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. You might think I'm talking shit or whatever.
105:19
I said this a couple of times. I interact with a lot of A&R people. And bro, I don't see as much as I'm not educated. I don't see currently someone that can do a better A&R job than me.
105:32
Mm-hmm.
105:33
Or Pore. Or Kabza. Or any of the other labels that are doing the NR work that... Bro, me, I do NR from nothing. They have offices. They have boardrooms. They have the money to travel. They don't come to your house. They have everything. They have a big name. Hey, I'm talking to Smangmang from Sony. That's supposed to give you access to everyone.
105:53
Mm-hmm.
105:55
I don't use that.
105:57
You understand what I'm saying? So I don't know man what Sony's doing bro. I don't know bro. I don't know bro. I don't know bro. I don't know bro. I don't know. I don't know. I saw Malaji and he greeted me nice. I didn't know that he made this change. I would have asked him immediately. Bro, you've been changing people left, right and center. What's the plan bro? Because right now… What happened?
106:20
Let me tell you what happened. This is what happened. People in good positions are driving nice cars. They have offices that had aircons and boardrooms. That's it. And they hold the title. That's it. Woke up in the morning, get to that office. Take content with that Sony brand there by the door. Get an artist come there. Make him post. Get OK socials to come and interview them. Right. And then post. That's it. And then a hype artist.
106:43
Nothing is being done. Come on. Okay. Why is it that when they sign contracts, there's alcohol being popped?
106:49
If you go to court and tell them, hey, I signed this contract and alcohol was being popped and you see videos of Malachi there in the video and he's popping the champagne. You can say, hey, this contract is null and void. I was incapacitated.
107:00
Maybe it's non-alcohol. Maybe it's non-alcohol. I've been in those offices. They're doing the biggest festival. No, bro.
107:11
Since you're close to him, that's my question. I'm not close to that man, bro. I'm not close to that man. So, Ricky, don't get excited. Okay, what are you bringing for us today? Oh, Oh bro, finally bro. We've been complaining about music bro. Hey Sol, how are you Sol?
107:27
Are you good? You don't want to speak up? I'm happy to see you.
107:31
Tell us, what inspired your Devon July outfit, my nigga? What inspired your Devon July outfit? Oh, you look dope. You had a dope outfit, man.
107:37
One of the best dressed. I won't lie. One of the best dressed. Yeah, one of the best dressed. These motherfuckers aren't giving me applause. What the fuck?
107:44
They said it was a four rated out of ten, so. People were watching the show since the beginning. No, you eight, my nigga. I think a ten, maybe. Shout out. You eight, my nigga.
107:53
You eight what? You eight asses.
107:57
Oh, you're Sommeezy. What happened? No, not Sommeezy. Since this nigga took it there. Not Sommeezy. Since this nigga took it there. No, no, no. It wasn't Sommeezy. Oh. He was adapting with Sommeezy. No, no, but he had a moment apparently with Sommeezy, right?
108:09
Yeah, it was a dope moment. We're just talking. Beautiful. Oh, nice. We're just talking. Nah, that's beautiful, man. Yeah.
108:13
Yeah, yeah. No, no, my outfit. So somebody offered me an outfit, you know. Oh, lovely. Shout out to Costa Denim. They did an outfit for me. So they hit me up. Actually, a couple of people had hit me up, but I only saw their message.
108:24
What was the cost for that denim? Come again? What was the cost for that denim? Please don't order anything from Costa Denim for the next six months. They used all their denim.
108:40
Oh, wow. Hating. It's in your jeans, eh?
108:43
It's in your jeans, bro.
108:45
Undeniable.
108:47
What worked you there? Yeah! Yeah!
108:52
Why don't you come to the July, man? He won't make it in Devon. He's going to lie.
108:56
He's going to tell you she's lying. The minute he lands at the airport, it's over.
109:03
So you won't gamble with your life? Not at a chance.
109:06
I'm not a pet like Jay-Avi.
109:09
It's my pet. Okay, Shabchance. Enjoy the show. Enjoy the show. Thank you, bro.
109:12
Thank you. So, yeah, bro. We've been looking for good music. We've been complaining. It's second quarter of the year. I mean, it's second half of the year. And Shabba decides to go make songs, a song with, drop an album with, what's it? M.T. Yeah, yeah. A beautiful album. I listened to all of it. No, we talked about this four weeks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. It's my beat break because the song I found, I found it on the album. It's called… It's called Ibanja.
109:43
I said it. Yeah, yeah. I know you would like it.
109:47
It's a beautiful song. Don't forget. It's a beautiful song. Oh, man. Oh, man. Songwriting there. Oh, oh, oh. Empty came true, bro. Empty came true, bro. Beautiful song, bro. Have it on repeat, bro. Like, I don't know what to say about that song. You must listen to it, bro. That's one. Two. Shout out to Questa. I mean, not Questa. Shout out to… Casper. Shout out to… Not Casper. Shout out to… KO. No, shout out to Sjava. Empty. For going back and trying to pull the other bruiser out.
110:17
Yeah, you understand? And say, hey… Why didn't he go back into the lift?
110:22
He pulled Sjava… What's his name? Saudi out of the lift.
110:25
Yeah, but now that's after the bit break.
110:27
Yeah. So… I'm giving Sjava… I'm gonna wait until we're done here.
110:31
Yeah, I'm…
110:36
Sol didn't get it.
110:36
So, shout out to… No, nothing, Sol. It's good. We're good. Thank you, Sol. You can leave us, Sol. Thank you.
110:46
So, shout out to Java and MT for going back and saying, hey, bro, let's do an album together. They didn't need to, but because… And that song speaks specifically about that.
110:57
But thank God that… Like a repeat of Abangan, a song they've done before.
111:03
It's Java's EP.
111:05
Yeah. So they're basically saying thank God for… He kept us together. We're all still alive. Grateful. We're hustling. We're working. Let's keep the eye on the ball. And let's stay together. Other people… Let's stay together.
111:18
They killed each other and shit like that. Or they hate each other. So it's a beautiful song man. Very very beautiful song man. Yeah it did well on the charts also.
111:24
It did well on the charts man.
111:25
I'm in love with it bro. It's a beautiful song bro. Shout out to all of them.
111:31
Shout out to Temptations, man.
111:34
Comrades, moving on to the big debate.
111:37
This one is more about responsibilities. Like, you know there's rights and there's responsibilities, right?
111:42
Mm-hmm.
111:43
So there's a music promoter. His name, I think, is Gucci. He went on TikTok. He recently deleted the video, actually, before I could save it. He went on TikTok and he basically took lyrics and he's quoted vocalistic, right? So vocalistic was saying, right? And then he went on to say, vocalistic is saying, right?
112:09
You understand? He was like, why is Fulka dissing Chico? Is there beefier? Right? And then Fulka went into the comments and he was like, no, I really like your content, my boy, but don't try to push a wrong narrative. That's actually what I'm saying. I'm saying, Chibi Iwele, not Chico Iwele. You understand? And then I was like, damn, man, I feel like as music promoters, there's some sort of responsibility that you should hold. You know? Because I mean, the narrative was already running until Fuku came into the comments and corrected that whole day. So I want to ask you guys, right? Fiso, are you listening, my nigga?
112:42
What responsibilities do these music promoters have or like music journalists or whatever what responsibilities do they have to the public to make sure they hold up to the standard and not send out wrong narratives not wrong narratives and misinformation sorry i get caught up there's a lot of saliva in my mouth yeah there's a lot of saliva sorry man hey sloppy You know... No, I'm saying it's sloppy.
113:18
Yes. Let me tell you something.
113:20
My uncle has a gun. Yeah. And I know where it stays. Okay. So don't make me pull it out, nigga. Pull it out, dog. Okay. I give him a warning. Yeah. You want to go first?
113:32
You want to go first, my nigga? Look, man. We need to define what are the promoters of the music. Yeah, let's define rather the promoters of the music.
113:39
The promoters are people that promote new songs, that get exclusives, that get press releases, that go to listening sessions.
113:50
So radio DJs are promoters, I guess? Sort of, yeah.
113:53
But now I'm talking about digital music promoters, like new age. Because there's no rules to new age. They just do what they want. Because there's no foundation. There hasn't been a platform with this before. DJs are promoters of music? Yeah, but that's like traditional. I'm talking about digital.
114:07
Yeah. No, I want to… Lay it. Establish something. Lay it. Yeah. So there's ways in which producers had a… I mean… Promoters. Because it seems like now all the promoters are wanting to be producers.
114:21
They had a code in how they promoted the music. You know, it comes from radio, the jocks. You know, they wouldn't give you misinformation. They tell you who is on this song. Yo, that was so-and-so featuring so-and-so and so-and-so and so-and-so. You know what I mean? And they'd make an effort to name each and every single one of the featured artists until it just became impossible to name everyone.
114:43
Okay.
114:43
Because I'm a piano. They just feature 20,000 people. Some people who are not even featured on the song are featured. Um… They had a code in which they worked in.
114:53
The guys that are doing it on the internet, these influencers, you understand? They've got zero code.
115:01
Zero code. And in fact, like for me, I think that their only code actually is gaining clout.
115:09
That's it. If you look at the streamers, they say whatever it is, that's going to gain them clips. That's going to gain them… Comments.
115:16
That's rich coming from you, by the way. What do I do? Do I stream? You do worse than they do. Do I stream? You do worse than they do. You go on streams.
115:23
I go on streams. You go on streams. And what I say is shakes the continent. Okay. Gets featured. Nigeria, Zimbabwe, everywhere. Clout. No, it's not clout. Okay. Not clout. The features, what is that? It's influence. Okay.
115:35
Okay, influence. I'm influential. You're right. You're right.
115:37
And I've done things.
115:38
Yes, I agree with you.
115:39
These guys haven't done shit. I agree. Let's move. They're not taking part in the doing of shit.
115:46
They're not. They're just talking about shit. You know what I mean? So there's no code amongst these guys. I'm not a saint. What are you looking for? Yeah, I'm not a saint. This is Nelson Mandela's book.
115:56
No, I was just saying, you don't have to go there for 664. Yeah.
116:00
That's what he said.
116:03
You know what I mean? So, I feel like, you know, we don't have anyone that's real anymore. We don't have any real promoters. We don't have any real DJs.
116:16
You know what I mean? Even radio has gone back to the old stock of DJs.
116:21
Because they're realizing that, oh, these Instagram kids, they've got no code. They've got no ethics. They're unethical. That's why all the streams, all the streamers right now, it's just a streaming OG party.
116:32
That's it. Like, oh, let's get some girls in a house. You understand? Record on stream.
116:39
Truth there, command, whatever, whatever. And then Ratimari camera. And then we go into the OG mode.
116:45
You understand what I'm saying? And then the girls are like, oh, damn it. That's how we get ourselves on. These young girls, these 20, 21-year-olds, 22-year-olds, that's how they're getting on.
116:54
They're giving up the cookie to get clout. It's facts, dog. It's facts. That's why you need to catch them early and say, hey, you're not going to turn into a body count.
117:06
Like you did.
117:07
Like you are doing.
117:08
Oh, yeah.
117:09
Exactly. You know what I mean? We're saving the horse. Us.
117:12
Well done.
117:14
They're not going to save the game with the way they're moving. That's what I'm seeing from these TikTokers. They're all using it for clout and all are using it for pussy. That's the thing about pussy being your motivation, dog. It's the worst thing to motivate you.
117:29
And the problem with this current generation, especially your generation onwards, pussy is too easy to get.
117:36
It's too easy. Lame niggas are getting pussy.
117:40
Lame ass niggas.
117:42
Nizoteng Niakida.
117:45
I'm serious. Lame niggas are getting too much pussy, playing with it. They're not doing any work to earn it.
117:52
Back in the day, we had to earn it. You had to earn your way into women's good graces. You understand what I'm saying? To see their laces.
118:01
That's the old school underwear that women used to wear. You know what I mean? So, now it's all easy. And these kids have got no motivation.
118:10
They're not doing anything. They're not doing events. You know, the clout is the only currency.
118:15
Clout is really currency.
118:18
It is. Clout and you know what I mean? Putting it out.
118:22
That's why these girls are just putting it out. And these guys are just… drunk off pussy. And they're not doing the work anymore.
118:29
That's very solid. But I want to know what responsibility do they have?
118:32
They've got responsibility to promote the work, to promote the music, to talk about the work. But they're just trying to make themselves famous so they can get girls in the club.
118:41
Less clout, more integrity, more research.
118:45
For me, it's like we can't look at TikTok and all these platforms to promote music anymore.
118:50
They're not. Because what's that guy that we're talking about last week? Peanut, whatever. Peanut or whoever it is will get more clout for dating girls than he will for talking about music. Doing what Taki does is difficult.
119:05
You understand? That's why he has to go into the whole dating content now.
119:10
Imagine.
119:13
Do you want to... Quickly, man.
119:17
I thought... Let me take it from the top. I thought... Chippy in Pretoria is... It's a hot girl. It's a hot girl. So how did this guy get it wrong? Chippy Chico. He's a bad journalist. He's not a journalist. He's a music promoter. Okay. Time is over. He's a bad music promoter. He's a clear example of what you influencers became today.
119:47
You guys sell fish you don't eat.
119:50
But you do anything for money. And that guy is exactly that. I don't think... I really don't think bro...
120:00
That guy even heard the song.
120:06
Yeah. I don't think he heard the song because I'm not from Pretoria, bro. But the minute you say, I know, you understand what I'm saying? The minute you say that, so I would start there. The responsibility that you guys have, I'm going to make it short because we're probably running out of time.
120:21
Oh, we got lots of time.
120:22
Your guys' responsibility is pretty much the same responsibility that the radio has. It's pretty much the same responsibility that we have as podcasters. Right?
120:32
And... Like, simple example. See what Meg G did for an STC this week, last episode. He just...
120:41
brought back Nasty C where he belongs.
120:44
And nobody can say, You understand? Yeah, you can say it because it's you. But I'm saying that everybody related with what Mac was saying. No. So that is a responsibility we have. Hold on.
120:58
Mac spoke to one of Nasty C's heroes. And that hero said, Yo, stop this streaming nonsense. And what did Nasty C do next? He started streaming again. He's coming for your guys' bread. You content creator's bread? Nasty is coming for your bread. He's saying any nonsense. Talking about, oh, I don't want to get married. Marriage is a scam. Nonsense. We don't want to hear that from Nasty.
121:18
Relax, Nota. So… They do have a huge responsibility. But I just wish that... As much as we're making money... Can they also do and sell fish to eat? Like listen to the music properly. It's a big responsibility to start promoting music. That's why we don't come here... And just talk about music we didn't listen to.
121:38
It's a responsibility. We come here... That's why... You will ask, what are you beat breaking? And I have to know what are we beat breaking? What song are we talking about? We already know what songs dropped. You understand? It's a responsibility. You understand what I'm saying? It's a responsibility you have as a music promoter. Not just do this thing that you guys are doing. And actually, you guys are killing the music industry. Can we find another way to promote music instead of using you guys?
122:04
I think we still need to use them. I don't think… A lot of us. I think like… These platforms… Yeah, yeah, yeah.
122:09
That's why I say can we find… These promoters are the same people that downgraded the music, bro. They did. You guys are responsible.
122:19
Who's responsible for hiring the promoters?
122:22
The record labels, the artists. You know, Kid X used to say this all the time. This thing of us hiring these Twitter promoters and everything else. At the end of the day, we're not going to know what's real. We're not going to know whether our songs are hits or not.
122:36
Because it's so easy to promote a song, make it a trending topic, then people download it. That was back in the day when trending topics still matter to people. Now people know that the whole timeline is bought, so they don't care. You know what I mean? The only time something… What? That's dope. No, it's like… No, you're right. I'm agreeing with you. You know what's the worst thing about it, right? You can see it in a country like America.
122:57
In America, right, there is no truth anymore. You're even seeing it right now in the World Cup. There's no truth anymore. Like we can both watch football and we can see that, dog, no one is anywhere near Messi.
123:11
But people will say, yeah, but Ronaldo is also a goat.
123:15
Do you understand what I'm saying?
123:16
That's never been a debate, bro.
123:18
It makes it debatable because as soon as some song has got streams or it's got traction or it's got promoters talking about it. Numbers don't lie. People say numbers don't lie.
123:27
But we're listening to the same songs and we can tell that this song is not really moving people. You understand?
123:33
And now we're talking about Kill Brady because he's got a whole lot of promoters.
123:38
that are, you know, suffering from Americanization.
123:42
I'm serious. Okay, I'm with you. They promote the same way Mac is doing for Nasty C. And I said, we know that one has to win. There's no hits. There's nothing that's coming out. That's shaking the nation. He just dropped a song last week. You don't even talk about it, right? I tried to play it on the show.
124:00
This guy stopped you. I listened to the entire EP. Nigga, please. You stopped me. I didn't stop you. You did, I was playing. Don't play, don't play. I listened to the entire EP, bro. Copyright and stuff, man. He's independent now. We're good.
124:13
He's not with a major anymore. There's not going to be any copyright strikes. What I'm trying to say is this, is that the fanboys... are now the promoters. So you've got Necessi's fans promoting. And when you speak about Necessi, they'll be like, oh, you're a hater. When you say nice things about Necessi, oh, yeah, look, Necessi's being spoken about. Oh, Sway Lee knows who Necessi is. Sway Lee is not a record executive, dog. Sway Lee told you on that Mike G interview that Mike Will made it. Do you understand what I'm saying? Mike Will produced them. Mike Will is the guy that signed them. Mike Will is the one that plugged them. You should be impressing Mike Will made it, not impressing Sway Lee, Mike Will's artist.
124:48
Do you understand what I'm saying? So they've twisted the whole entire...
124:53
like metric that we use, the system that we use to actually rate which artist is actually performing, which artist is doing well, which artist is dropping dope music.
125:02
Yeah.
125:02
That's why Cubs have struggled to drop dope music because the fanboys, the promoters, whoever Sony was paying for the promo tweets and the posts and everything else, they muddied the water.
125:16
They muddied the waters. Do you know the movie Muddy Waters?
125:20
It was about bribery, payola in the industry. And that's what these influencers are doing. They're engaging in payola. And the payola is making it impossible for the artists to actually differentiate between good music and bad music. So they're dropping shit music because when they drop it, the timeline is lit. Right. Because it's paid for. Do you understand what I'm saying? And that's what the ethics of music are supposed to actually come and correct. Right.
125:45
These guys are unethical.
125:47
All right. All right. Ethics. Comrades, let's just go straight to what you're doing.
125:52
Just one quick because the new releases are very important for you today.
125:54
Shane, that's one for Nota.
125:59
True. Who said it better though?
126:05
And Dudu called it earlier when we spoke about this. He was like, they're probably going to say the same thing. But we're going to pick the same thing. What's wrong with us agreeing? No, let's not focus on the English. Let's not focus on the English. Let's focus on the keywords and the subject matter there.
126:19
Yeah. The weight.
126:23
That's a big vote. That's a big vote. That counts as three.
126:32
And so, never know. Never speak. So, that's what's 2-1. Tatum? I mean, sorry, shots. 2-2, damn.
126:40
Ghost lady? You voted? Ah, ghost lady. That's a draw. You want to break the tie? Ah, shout out Nota, man.
126:50
You are supposed to fetch me. So he's apologizing for not fetching me.
126:54
Ghost lady just voted. She came in as a ghost. He's just like, it's fierce.
126:57
Spira's probably watching his old video on a blue job on a podcast. Yo, shout out to Spira. He got me to work today. That's why he couldn't vote for me. What? What did he do?
127:07
He ubered me here. He doesn't like it when you talk about the blowjob, man. He ubered me here. Oh, it's just down the internet. It's 100 million views. Hey, hey, hey. Speedway ubered me here.
127:15
Him and I have passed now. Relax. Relax. No, no, no. I'm a good guy. I'm a good guy.
127:24
No, on the video, that's where I say... I understand, but I will open chats. I will open chats, I will open chats.
127:30
No, stop body shaming, bro. Let's go, bro. It's body shaming now. What exactly is he body shaming your 4'5"? You're enjoying this, man. No, I'm asking, what is body shaming your 4'5"? Are you excited about this? Why would I be excited about your 4'5"? Are you happy? Why would I be excited about your 4'5"? Are you happy? Like, are you happy? Like, people are body shaming a man and a man. Also, new releases, comrades. Can I see Daniels?
127:51
Hmm.
127:51
You see his new project.
127:52
You know what's the nice thing? Is you can have been married. And then you can still add to your body count.
128:00
Without having to pay for it.
128:01
That's the best thing about divorce. I saw it bro.
128:07
I saw it. I don't like this guy. So this one he called, he basically… Pretty much the same thing. Stripped, yeah.
128:13
They will take it out again. Stripped. No, it's back on. It's back online now. The first album is back on.
128:19
Yeah, I don't like him. And the thing is… This guy is probably the best prompter. Is it called? Is that right English? Yeah. So that I don't call him a composer. He's the best prompter. Like… His composition based on writing and describing the music on AI… Bro. He's the best. Too much, bro. He's the best. Why can't he just stand up and on up to that shit and say… Okay, you can't beat me with AI. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? I had a house music song sent to me by Choco, La Choco.
128:50
Today that he recorded. Who's La Choco? La Choco. Japan's finest. Ah.
128:56
Japan's finest. Japan's finest. Shumaya! Yeah, Shumaya, Shumaya. Yeah, he just told me they're coming back.
129:02
They're coming back? Yeah, yeah. Shout out to them.
129:04
Shout out to them, bro. They really heard us for some time. So… They were Oskiro's signing. I'm listening to a song he did with La Choco. And I'm like, shit. Oh, Credo, Credo. Credo, yeah. He did a song with... With La Troco. How's music, bro? Yeah? Like, it's a job song, but again... Like, seriously. He's amazing. He's amazing.
129:25
Can I tell you why? Because the other group member of... What's the other one? Not La Troco.
129:31
I forgot his name.
129:32
But he was also part of Dover Nights. He apparently did a song or his artist did a song with DJ Zintle.
129:38
Remember? And they weren't credited properly. And then she ended up dropping the single and releasing another single with someone else. You know what I mean? And giving him problems. So that's why these guys are saying, hey, rather than dealing with people like DJ Zintle, let's deal with AI rather. Yeah. AI.
129:54
I'll say that you listen to it, bro. There's probably three old songs from house music.
129:57
Until they get their asses sued.
129:59
Really how song music like they were big back in the days. You heard that Apple is true. On the song like I'm listening to. I like to like chocolate. Nah, come on bro. Like nah bro. Bro, that's dope bro. That guy yo. That guy bro. I wish he was a singer bro. Is it okay to say that? No, he's the best prompter.
130:16
Who is dope on that song? Are all of them AI? Huh? Are all of them AI? I didn't hear Chico's part properly. I got it this morning.
130:25
Chico's own song? La Choco.
130:26
Oh, La Choco.
130:27
Yeah. So, yeah.
130:30
There's quite a few people on that song.
130:31
I will start supporting him when he comes up and owns it. No, he needs to own up to his shit. Mm-hmm. You understand what I'm saying? On up to your shit. Then we give you proper support. We choose to go with you or not. Instead of lying to us here bro. So yeah. I'm not happy he's back. But yeah. You're not happy he's back. Yeah I'm not happy. He's back on Apple Music.
130:52
You heard that Apple is suing OpenAI. Sorry. I said chat GPT. They're suing OpenAI.
131:00
So these AI companies are getting sued. Left, right and center.
131:03
Yeah but they're taking too much. Now it's all evident.
131:07
What do you mean? Like they're taking so much from songs and artists that we know. How can they not?
131:12
What these people don't understand is that this is what the colonial system has always done. The blacks, the Africans are the creators of everything. And they try to automate us out.
131:22
So white people always try to find a comeback.
131:26
They always try to find a machine to replace us. Yeah, they need to change the shit. First, they enslaved us and made us build everything. And once everything was built, they were like, okay, fine, let them sing.
131:39
Once we started singing, you know what I mean? They said, how can we own this? Then they owned our singing. And now they're seeing, okay, damn it, we can't create anything new. Let's find a way to create without them. That's what AI is. As a black person, if you support AI, you're supporting the erasure of our culture.
131:59
Your thing you're single by Tata Hudson's Java? Am I him? No AI. Current favorite? No AI. Pure talent. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. How is it sounding?
132:07
I mean, this Java stimulus is what she needs to open her up to, you know, new audiences outside of… What she's been doing in the past.
132:15
Which is pretty much what you said last episode. No, bro. I'm a piano artist. I'm still collaborating with the same. Bullshit, bro. Get out. Go make music with somebody from another genre. They're like the content creators. Yeah? Like, I don't longer want to hear a song. I'm not trying to listen to that, bro. I don't want it.
132:36
Literally bro, I don't hate them, but I'm saying I don't want to hear that collaboration anymore. At least for the next 10 years.
132:42
Don't worry, you won't hear any of their collaborations in 10 years.
132:47
Ricky Linyoro also dropped Linyora season. I saw him in Dove and he was in a couple of my keys. He had really dope sets. Yeah. Did you listen to it? They sent me the EP before it dropped. They sent you the EP before it dropped? How long ago? Maybe three weeks ago. You think you're important. Why don't you send it to us?
133:04
Huh?
133:05
No, but you're sending… Why are you gatekeeping music? Just like you gatekeeping the best of both worlds.
133:12
True, true, true. How does it feel? I sent you… Man, go to your WhatsApp actually. Never mind. No, no, no.
133:19
We're talking about music now. We already paid the bills there by Shims.
133:23
So… You mean I paid them?
133:31
And it wasn't a pill.
133:34
There was no pill. No, it wasn't a pill. So I'm more into Afro house music and Afro tech. The blues are doing very well. Mosquito dropped a song. Mosquito dropped a song. It's called Kitty Kid. Let me take it again. Kitty Kid. Or Kiki Kiki.
133:51
Kiki Kiki from… The vocal is from Mongola.
133:55
Nice. Luanda.
133:56
Beautiful song. It reminds me of... Don't know music.
134:04
I know it.
134:08
I know it.
134:08
Keep your name.
134:10
It's some old song. Whip. Back to Limpop. It's an interpolation.
134:14
Back to Limpop.
134:14
No, no, I know it.
134:16
Back to... What's the thing of yours? He sent a press release. I sent it. I don't know why. Who sent it? I sent it to you. Oskido sent it to me. He sent it to me.
134:24
When?
134:24
Today.
134:25
Oh, okay. What?
134:27
He will interact with older people, obviously. Relax. Junior dropped two songs from the EP.
134:36
Why didn't Shimza afford the press release? Why didn't Shimza afford the press release? Shimza. Send it to who? I get it when Oskido forgets. Shimza reminds him.
134:49
He forgot about his award. She's just like, hey, hey. My girlfriend's student daddy is looking for you.
134:57
Yo. Russian, come collect your award. Let's go, man. Mass music dropped. Mass music, probably one of the most underrated DJs dropped a beautiful song. Bro, listen. You're working here, man. You want to get paid or not this month? So, you got paid already, so you can afford. So now, Sean Music, most underrated producer we have, or we're less spoken about, that is really drop a beautiful song with Minkai Ndruv and Kubonke. Beautiful song, man. Again, I've been warning you guys about Minkai Ndruv.
135:29
It's just really amazing.
135:31
What are you listening to, Muratana? Nothing. I was listening to Beyonce last week.
135:36
Yeah, and we didn't get to speak about it.
135:37
Yeah.
135:38
And I realized that, yo, damn, man.
135:42
Beyoncé is dropping music and no one's talking about it.
135:47
Shut up. TNS, we're still in Durban. What's going on, my man?
135:52
Now we're down in the pot speaking about two stages left, two stages right. Now you want us to… You know what? Please don't do that.
136:01
Remember once KB was bragging about giving TNS a ma'anda pen?
136:07
Yeah, Tiba, a ma'anda pen.
136:09
And then he was taking off Zain Bougie's underpin.
136:13
How he was!
136:16
Zain Bougie said, hey!
136:23
Kavelu and Steve. I'm just saying. TNS dropped a beautiful song, man, with Isake, bro.
136:31
It's a beautiful song, man. I think DJ Bongs needs to hear that song. He's gonna like it.
136:35
How does DJ Bongs not know what TNS is doing?
136:38
It just dropped. Now, I'm saying I hope he heard it.
136:40
DJ Bongs knows everything that's happening in Durban. Elaborate. DJ Bongs is like he runs Durban music, dog.
136:47
Yeah.
136:47
As much as Tira?
136:49
I mean, they're together on their latest song, right?
136:51
Yeah, I don't know.
136:52
Exactly. There's a reason why. DJ Bong still lives in Durban. Okay, cool. Do you understand?
136:57
Tira lives in the Northwest. Go out and listen to it. It's a beautiful three-step song, man. I love it, man. Go on the way to the Northwest. I love it. It's called Ntoomba and Chamfet. You've got to listen to this song. The production, bro. I was enjoying… It's got… I'm enjoying the whole song. Until… Who comes in? Bumi.
137:16
No, bro. TNS, the reason why you're not blowing up again is because you're holding on to the last love you have, last collaborations that worked before. Move on from Pumi. Let Pumi work with other people. Pumi's so much as dope, but she doesn't fit on the song. I felt like she was forced to be on the song or she forced her way in the song. Like, literally, that's why I say, you must listen to music. I have a responsibility to listen. Go listen to it. Listen. Go listen to it. Come back and tell me I'm wrong. She fits.
137:42
And I'm not saying she's not dope. She's real dope.
137:45
Yeah, Mpumi once fought me, eh? Do you know that?
137:49
Do you know that story?
137:50
Which one?
137:51
Mpumi.
137:51
With Heavy K?
137:54
Well, Heavy K was watching the fight, yeah.
137:56
I don't know the story. Oh, Mpumi. Yo, calm with it. When she was still being managed and dating John.
138:01
Her manager.
138:03
John took a USB. We were booked by Heavy K. Some gig in Port Elizabeth. I think. Yeah. Yeah. In Port Elizabeth somewhere. Where? In Jutenhaig, I think.
138:13
Yeah.
138:14
Yeah.
138:14
And then I'm playing.
138:16
And then I don't know who came on and says, yeah, you guys have got the last two songs or whatever. This guy pulls the USB, dog.
138:23
Imagine. While we're on stage.
138:26
After the game, I went and I said, okay, rematch.
138:31
And I boxed him.
138:32
Oh, yeah?
138:32
Inside the car.
138:34
When I look up, Mpumi's busy pulling me. No! No! No! No! And I'm looking at her like, like, relax. And then I just let go of her, man.
138:47
Yeah. So there's a lot of beautiful music dropping now that we've done documenting your history. There's a lot of music that's dropping. Why are you guys laughing, bro? You're surprised he knows English, yeah?
139:02
Now that we've done documenting your history of violence. You know, you gotta…
139:08
You gotta let them know, you know? Remember my Jay-Z, dawg. I bring up my old fights.
139:12
So yeah, I wanna send a big shout out to the artists right now. They're really coming through.
139:16
Second half of the year. There's a lot of music that dropped, bro. A lot of music. Mr. Brown dropped. Beautiful song.
139:23
Oh, Mr. Brown. He's back in the country.
139:27
Maybe drop it from Zim. Do you get like a little compiler that makes all these suggestions for you now? What do you mean? I listen to music.
139:35
All I have to do is listen. Yeah, I'm on Spotify.
139:39
This is dope actually, by the way.
139:40
Just to remind myself of what I was listening to. Oh yeah? That's what I do. Yeah, tell a man and thingy. Yo, it's a beautiful song. Come over. It's the only song in the EP. You're too old to be a music promoter. And an influencer.
139:52
But you're teaching them how to do the job. Are you learning that?
139:56
I'm too old.
139:56
No, but did you see that? The Demtuda thing. The three things.
139:58
I saw Demtuda thing. I had a song. I had the song. No, because I wanted Justin Cha album. I only had one song that he does with… Who's this boy? Probiotics.
140:08
Probiotics.
140:09
No, no, no.
140:10
No, no, no. Probiotics, they help you with your digestion.
140:18
That's supposed to be fun, yeah?
140:20
No, it's like real talk. When we are working. I'm talking about healthy things, dog. I've been on a health tip of late.
140:27
So I'm still listening to them two. That is very important to give him time. I only listened to one song. The one that he does with… Who is that boy that is always washing the streets in Maboneng?
140:40
Washing the streets. The boy that is going to… I don't want to… They're going to say I'm body shaming. The other one that said he's never going to come back, he did a dope song there with Demtuda. That's the only song I listen to. And listening to it is quite happy even. So I listen to it, I'm like, okay, this can't be the best thing Demtuda can give us.
140:58
Damn it.
140:59
Yeah, yes, please continue. This can be the best thing Demtuda can give us. I want to listen to the entire album and then come back with it. Yeah, so those are the things that I'm listening to, bro.
141:07
Kabza's dropping on the 31st of July, right? Oh? Kabza. I saw it. So he's dropping the same day as Demtuda?
141:13
And Makazi.
141:15
Because Demtuda, I'm seeing it now. It's actually a noise by Demtuda. There's one song out, Scooter. It's dropping on the 31st. It's called Noise.
141:22
So Kabza's dropping 2-2. Kabza's dropping 2-2 and then he's dropping Noise on the same day as Kabza.
141:28
Head to head. You think it can't work? Universal versus Sony.
141:31
I've never seen that.
141:33
Sean versus Manusha.
141:34
It can work. That's where people like Sviji must go back to work, bro. Dropping against someone in here. So they must show ass. Because I've been calling these niggas out, dog. Like… I was with that brew at Universal. Who was he going to?
141:49
Eddie. Eddie. With him there by Hennessy.
141:52
No, it wasn't Eddie. It was another guy. Sorry. I forgot his name.
141:54
He's a nice guy. But I always call him out and say, you know what? You guys are just eating Universal money. You guys are not doing your jobs.
142:01
You guys are probably the laziest people I've seen in the team here at Universal. You understand?
142:07
Really?
142:07
Yeah. Bro, when... When Peko was still alive. Yeah. When Pris KB was that side... And Tabiso was running promotions. Right. Ladies and ma... Those niggas were working.
142:19
The job was being done.
142:19
Tabiso was an old promoter.
142:22
I headhunted Pekko from Universal back in those days. You understand what I'm saying? So the job was being done. So this one I'm listening to.
142:26
That's why it's on my head on my Twitter profile.
142:29
So I think we must now, you also get to just make two hours listen to music. You don't have to listen to all of it because most of the time music is repeated. They repeat. They just do it. Do you know who works at Universal?
142:42
Or who worked at Universal?
142:43
Oh shit, Donald dropped the project.
142:44
They hired him there.
142:46
Who?
142:47
KO's brother.
142:48
What's his name?
142:49
Sia.
142:50
They hired him where?
142:51
They hired him. He was even road managing MT at some point, I think. They hired him where? To Universal. Okay. I get an AKA Ushwil.
143:00
Mazulambulai.
143:02
Yeah.
143:02
Yeah.
143:03
Yeah. Please go listen to this project, Donald. It's called For Us. It's got four or five songs. Let's come and talk about it next week.
143:09
It's got four or five songs. So, yeah. You're body shaming yourself now.
143:13
Wow. Move on, dog. Why would you get excited about another man's dick, dog? I don't get it. I'm not getting excited, dog. And funny thing is... Open chance is excited. Funny thing is some niggas are watching these videos with their women, dog. Your woman is not saying, because it's you. It's like, back to Limpopo. So don't show these videos. Don't show these videos. Don't show these videos. Don't show these videos.
143:40
Don't show these videos to women. They know about us.
143:44
Did not they know about us?
143:46
So yeah, shout out. No, they really know, though.
143:48
They know about Tonga men. They really know. Even the short ones. They really know.
143:53
We're not done with all the songs. We're not done. And myself. Last thing we have to say on the show. Way over two hours, guys. Thank you. And we're out. Shout out.
144:04
Tony D's Shusanyama is coming to Tiger Valley very soon.
144:16
Thank you.